Ал Ал ом Бл Ал Ал млл лм Бл ВлАллллпАл ммм Бл мм млллмАлппплАл Ал лл А ллБл Бл лл БллппплмБллппАлмммп АлАллл лл А ллБл Бл лл Бл АлБл Алм АмлпплАл Ал пл ллп Аллл пллмАлпллллпБл АлллпАлммлВАл Ал Outbreak Magazine Issue #10 - Article 9 of 18 '~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~' IRC - Hacking FAQ ================= 2002-10-05 by Timeless timeless@hackstation.tk (the n00b's name was changed to save embarrassment - I'll leave it to you to figure out which one is the n00b, hehehe) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ hey hiya what does this channel do? teach? it holds intelligence, so maybe it could teach I suppose well i want to learn you are not the only one, even elite hackers constantly try to learn more hehe today's hack is tomorrow's patch well im a newbe you have many years to go hehe well we all have to start some were right yes, but there is pain involved hehe do you write programs? im learning good, learn more all languages i know some c++ and i learned pascal but thats kindof i useless learn some assembly :) to give you an idea of some real hacking, check out the tutorials on buffer and stack overflows on this page: www.roothack.org the links are on the right i c there are some nice debugger tips in there too so this can do it? it's a start "it" is never done hehe tru what will this site teach? it will hopefully help you to understand good coding practices kool by knowing the flaws you can write good strong code do i apply for the game? heh, the game is way too advanced don't bother with the game yet o lol do you run Linux? ok ill just read up on it then k i run a xp adn a mac Jaguar? yup kewl under the hood is like BSD a type of Unix get your hands dirty hehe also get a spare box up and try running RedHat Linux setup firewalls, web servers, etc. i tried that 1ce kewl try it more i dont like it much i couldnt even get on the internet hehe the more you expose yourself to this kind of stuff the more likely you are to get an instinct for it make some dynamic web sites, try see the related security issues ok ill check it out examine the various network protocols get a feel for what is going on behind the scenes right see how quickly that got like really big?! lots to do ya lol hope you're young :) hehe ... it will take half your life to become a well-rounded elite hacker/cracker etc. wow i thought u just learn it like reading a book lolol um, no, unfortunately hehe I wish ya considering many things change that would be nice at a rapid rate tru which is why the instinct thing is important what's your profession? im in school ok anyone else you know that likes the same kind of thing? (hacking) not really yeah, me neither hehe what kind of stuff can u do ? like hacking I'm too far gone now, people I know wouldn't understand even the simplest of things I have to talk about lol well, I've done all kinds of things how long did it take u to learn? I am a professional programmer and I worked for an ISP started in 1985 damn been around for a while yep what do u think about LINdows not checked it out yet what do you think of it? heard ne thing interesting? havent tried it either I have heard the odd thing that assures me it exists i c it supposedly can run linux and windows progrmas? other Linuxes run Windows apps using "wine" wine stands for: Wine Is Not an Emulator hehe although, you can run something like bochs if you want to emulate another PC on your current PC bochs can be found on Sourceforge hmm i need to learn to use linux to hakc? you need to expose yourself to many OS'es a lot of serious web hosting companies use RedHat Linux what os u use? heh, I have XP as workstation, RH Linux as firewall/gateway, my other boxes have Debian Linux and Windows 2000 Debian whats that? I can also configure Cisco routers Debian is yet another Linux distro damn im taking a cisco class good I don't get to use Solaris much these days I can't be arsed to buy the hardware am saving up for my first Mac (well, first one for home use anyway) ya i love my mac it can do so much crap and one day I want to continue playing around with MPLCs and I want a mini-PC hehe i got me a dell laptop me too and a dual 1.4 gig g4 it's a bit old tho I like the G4, can't afford one tho mine about 1 year 1ghz ya i had to save for 2 years well done dude impressive hehe one more thing, and this is just me I'm speaking for... I make of rule of never hacking out in the wild. meaning? meaning I won't go hacking for fun then y else would u hack? unless the company pays me to do it to themselves and I have a written contract well,,, lol I hack my own computers to learn LOL I have no motive to hack anyone nicely put ... yet :) hehe let see...... lol could u get into my computer right now? dunno maybe it will prob be extremy easy * Timeless shrugs hehe :) there was a competition/honey pot running recently, XP Home box, default install connected to the net I don't think it was broken into it's when the user starts doing stupid things that makes it easier hehe or if services are open to buffer overflows etc. kool a buffer overflow is basically a way of getting some pre-prepared code of mine to run on your machine, which would in turn download a back door program for me to have a more advanced interaction with your computer thats awsome some buffer overflows can take ages to create once you find a flaw in the software that can be abused thats y u need to be a programer it's sometimes easier to send you a trojan, or get you to view a web site that exploits other known flaws in your web browser for example yes, exactly! being a programmer makes sure that you understand what you are doing thats pretty awsome having worked at an ISP, I also understand how traceable you are too :) so before i try to start ne thing i should learn more programming yes what isp u work for? I used to work for www.********.co.zw - Zimbabwe's leading ISP, but then I moved to the UK u lived in Zimbabwe? I used to catch hackers in the act, then make them aware I knew what they were doing, scare them a bit, then befriend them - they never attempted to hack my servers again after that it was great hehe sounds awsome having an understanding of web servers and buffer overflows helped me prevent my web servers from being vulnerable to the code red worm - simply use an application-level firewall, like SecureIIS for example on the web server I also write web applications so understanding the HTTP protocol and anything web-related also helps a lot damn u know everything no way! I don't I found the more I learn the less I feel I know there is just too much to learn eventually you find you will specialise in various areas of the art that you like tru I used to crack software - ie. remove 30-day expiry etc. for fun (never to distribute on the net though - bearing in mind my first rule) kool' but that gets a bit boring so I stopped doing it ya? besides, all my software is properly paid for now hehe so what do u do int this channel?> I chat if anyone wants to chat, give and take advice, etc., most people idle here everyone likes to stereotype hackers - I'm just curious, and like computers, but I am also a very responsible person --------------------------------------------------------------------------