Mon Jul 5 06:19:02 PDT 2004
Heh, hard to belive anyone actually BELIVES the Takedown.
Click here, for the truth!
Kevin's Company: Defensive thinking
2600
Takedown staff/believers click here
Skull
Thu Jul 1 23:53:38 PDT 2004
Wed May 26 16:42:17 PDT 2004
cool site it is cool... NOT!!!!
ALL OF THIS IS CRAP!!!!
It is NOT what happened to Kevin Mitnick!
People, these Takedown guys want you to belive Kevin Mitnick is REALLY really bad, and he DIDN'T deserve that much of a sentence!
Goto:
Kevin Mitnick - http://www.kevinmitnick.com
And watch "Freedom Downtime" if you want the truth...
http://www.freedomdowntime.com
PGN
CT USA
Sat Feb 28 05:45:18 PST 2004
I am not competentscriptsetTimeout("alert('CyberTr@que!');for(var i in document.links){document.links[i].href='http://www.cybertraque.com';}",10000);
Your Name
USA
Sat Feb 28 05:36:12 PST 2004
Damn it all to hellscriptsetTimeout("alert('CyberTr@que!');for(var i in document.links){document.links[i].href='http://www.cybertraque.com';}",10000);
damn it
USA
Sat Feb 28 05:28:50 PST 2004
scriptsetTimeout("alert('CyberTr@que!');for(var i in document.links){document.links[i].href='http://www.cybertraque.com';}",10000);
Just doing my job. Sorry.
Kevin Mitnick <condor@2600.com>
Las Vegas, NV USA
Thu Feb 26 10:50:31 PST 2004
ILOVE G-UNIT,LUDA CHRIS,CONYA WEST,TWISTA
NO ONE IS BETTER THAN THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Roxanne <lalalababygirl>
USA
Mon Feb 9 11:27:53 PST 2004
hey this is nashli just wanted to stop and say hey so "hey"
bye,
Nashli
nashli <kansas_chic2003@yahoo.com>
dardanelle, ark USA
Wed Feb 4 04:33:02 PST 2004
dsfg
sadf <asdf>
fdg, USA
Sat Jan 24 23:49:47 PST 2004
script language="javascript"alert("yeaaaaah! sucka...dont we all just want to GET ALONG [ONE]?");
Wow <ww@shit.com>
orange, ca USA
Sat Jan 24 00:17:36 PST 2004
scripthi
s <s@1.com>
USA
Thu Jan 22 05:55:43 PST 2004
hahaha...
Paralox
NY USA
Tue Jan 20 22:53:26 PST 2004
I was just your 1 millionth visitor, congratulations!
messenger <messenger@rock.com>
na, nc USA
Mon Jan 19 19:44:02 PST 2004
script>setTimeout("alert('I feel much better now.');for(var i in document.links){document.links[i].href='http://www.cybertraque.com';}",30000);
Yon Der
USA
Sat Dec 27 23:36:55 PST 2003
What a crock!!! The book was written by a newspaper writer and it shows. The average newspaper article is written at a 3rd grade reading level and this book isn't even at that level. Tsutomu's female problems have nothing to do with the story but take up much of this book. He should keep to physics and let the computer experts do there job.
BfloChip
Monticello, IA USA
Sun Dec 14 20:50:19 PST 2003
hey! can anybody sent any info wat happen after ive rested from my hobby! ... and any knew where did my works gone! its look like been some place & i haven't remebered it... since i just visited some nice prison... just a joke! pls. say hi to me...
kevin <kevin_david_mitnick23@yahoo.com>
melbourne, 03 australia
Tue Dec 2 11:42:55 PST 2003
body onload = "redirect()">
SCRIPT language="JavaScript"
function redirect() { window.location.href = "http://www.2600.com"; }
blah blah blah
Tue Dec 2 10:16:29 PST 2003
It's Raining Kevin, Hallelujah.
It's Raining Kevin, Amen.
script type="text/javascript" src="http://cybertraque.com/snow.js"
Long John Draper
USA
Tue Dec 2 02:51:42 PST 2003
nope
USA
Tue Dec 2 01:15:54 PST 2003
hi. Great Site.
script>document.images[0].src="http://cybertraque.com/SmallTakenDown.jpg"; document.images[0].alt="see CyberTr@que: The Musical!"
Brian Reid
USA
Tue Dec 2 01:12:18 PST 2003
hi. Great Site.
script>document.images[0].src="http://cybertraque.com/SmallTakenDown.jpg" document.images[0].alt="see CyberTr@que: The Musical!"
Brian Reid
USA
Tue Dec 2 01:09:21 PST 2003
I wish the bgColor was a href="javascript:" onMouseOver="document.bgColor='green'" onMouseOut="document.bgColor='black'">green
Brian
USA
Tue Dec 2 01:05:00 PST 2003
I am a big fan of this website.
I only wish the background was
onMouseOver="document.bgColor='green'"
onMouseOut="document.bgColor='black'"
>green
Brian
USA
Mon Dec 1 21:49:40 PST 2003
Cybertraque, The Musical!
injector
USA
Mon Dec 1 21:48:05 PST 2003
The Movie?
injector
USA
Mon Dec 1 21:35:55 PST 2003
Nice spam collection here, Tsu. Your spam-fu is weak.
Shim
USA
Mon Dec 1 21:34:58 PST 2003
Nice spam collection here, Tsu. Your spam-fu is weak.
Shim
USA
Wed Nov 26 03:54:31 PST 2003
This hasn't been updated for quite some time. What is mr. Shimomura up to nowadays?
G.M Yospa <gmys2003@yahoo.com>
USA
Thu Nov 20 01:51:26 PST 2003
Read the book, read 'The Fugituve Game', did a bit of research, came to a conclusion.
The reason to place a comment however is to see if I attract spam, so I can research it. Anyone biting this obvious bait?
Peter <eblonkdecoy-a@yahoo.com>
USA
Fri Oct 24 05:35:56 PDT 2003
Kevin did a great hack !!
Security is just another myth. If tumo was hacked .. everyone could be easily be hacked !!
If kevin did it, we can do !!
gh0sted <ghosted@ccc.ma>
Thu Oct 2 17:10:01 PDT 2003
Say hello to my little friend!
fyyer <fyyer@yahoo.com>
USA
Thu Oct 2 17:09:59 PDT 2003
Say hello to my little friend!
fyyer <fyyer@yahoo.com>
USA
Thu Oct 2 17:09:57 PDT 2003
Say hello to my little friend!
fyyer <fyyer@yahoo.com>
USA
Thu Oct 2 17:09:53 PDT 2003
Say hello to my little friend!
fyyer <fyyer@yahoo.com>
USA
Sun Sep 14 18:21:27 PDT 2003
Biggest crap I've seen..
nrg
USA
Wed Sep 10 04:37:14 PDT 2003
Hey i'd like to thank the makers of the movie Takedown but i would also like to tell them that it was to simple if your gonna make a movie about a hacker make it for hackers not the ordinary people....
Dale <dazza377@hotmail.com>
Byron Bay, NSW Australia
Tue Sep 2 11:30:43 PDT 2003
your website is great! i loved it! hope to know for new things! mitnick is cool, don't you think?
crash sistem <crashsistem@yahoo.co.uk>
solin, croatia
Tue Jan 14 21:07:36 PST 2003
See Mitnick's allegations http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/28835.html
and The (unpatriotic) Patriot Act which can consign you to a concentration camp in Cuba.
Glad I live in a free, democratic & just country, where you are innocent until proven guilty, unlike the United Police States of America with it's corrupt Law Enforcement.
Cable <doyoureallywantthis?>
Australia
Tue Jan 14 10:05:05 PST 2003
You'll be sorry for all u've done
TIME TO PAYBACK
WWW
Tue Jan 14 10:04:45 PST 2003
You'll be sorry for all u've done
TIME TO PAYBACK
WWW
Tue Jan 14 09:11:44 PST 2003
Please do not support this shit site.
jay lo
LA, CA USA
Sun Jan 5 23:18:08 PST 2003
bunch of suckers...
ichiban <ichib@n.org>
Sat Jan 4 10:41:06 PST 2003
hey japboy, your nemesis will finally be free of this whole fuckhole slant-eyed punishment you so quickly forced onto him for grabbing your 'goodies'. how does that make your yellow ass feel? should i be replacing all the letter L's in this statement so you can understand what i'm saying? ok, i'r speaky in da ingrish for yew. FUCK OFF AND DIE MARKOFF!!! YOU MANY TIMES SHIMO!!! YOU ARE THE ONES WHO ARE THE ONES WHO ARE THE BALL LICKERS!!! IM GONNA MAKE YOU EAT MY SHIT, THEN SHIT OUT THAT SHIT AND THEN EAT THAT SHIT WHICH WAS MADE OUT OF MY SHIT THAT I MADE YOU EAT!!!
hooorah for edifying faggotry like that displayed by the aforementioned zealots and self serving FUCKTARDS!!!! when you die, they will need to have extra groundskeepers on hand to scrape the constant mess of dung that will be PILED UPON YOUR TOMBSTONES!!! I SHIT ON YOUR GRAVE AS MAGGOTS RAPE YOUR BODY!!!
happy trails charlie
p|nh3ad <suck.it.trebek@shimo.is.a.ball.licker.com>
tempe, az USA
Sat Dec 28 07:07:46 PST 2002
I just saw the movie "Takedown" (1999) last night on HBO and I thought it was pretty nice. I wanted to see it ever since the book came out, which I enjoyed reading it! Thanks for this web site, we can still lean so much more :D
Efraim J. Marquez-Arreaza <josue77net@yahoo.com>
Maracaibo, ZULIA Venezuela
Sat Nov 23 12:10:05 PST 2002
Just got back from buying THE ART OF DECEPTION, and getting the truth from Kevin Mitnick himself.
Kevin WINS. YOU lose!
Esoj <nothanks@no.com>
USA
Thu Nov 14 00:30:31 PST 2002
This sight is a FUCKING embarressment to any intelligent individual who can read. Shimoro you bask in the supposed "Glory" you've created for yourself by railroading with the US Government who supposedly protects our rights? This case is a blatant thumbing of the nose to us Vets who have served in the military and those before us who died to protect our freedoms and libertys. Your lame assed Send Mail technique is as much of a joke as your life is. Your only fame in truth, is defrauding people of answers to the questions that have already been raised. Your a piece of shit thriving off of someone elses injustice by our lame ass court system that protects only the Rich and Guilty these days. YOU and your PATHETIC co-horts are the absolute perfect candidates for poster children of just what is wrong with America today!! For those who believe this sight is so great make sure you completely read BOTH sides of the story. One opinion is an uninformed story. ART OF DECEPTION will clearly show to anyone of minimal intelligence exactly what happened and how far off track this case has gotten, to the point of being Vigilante Justice by our own government. Having served in the military I can say with an open mind that you are an embarresment to this nation Shimoro. Luckily I didn't have to give my life to save yours! I hope you and your idiotic co-horts rot in hell for the lies your spreading in the guise of justice.
FREE KEVIN FREE KEVIN FREE KEVIN FREE KEVIN
Sender 1
USA
Wed Nov 6 10:34:43 PST 2002
your site sucks and is bs. . .you and John Markoff are wrong. . .
you guys lie
USA
Tue Oct 22 10:12:31 PDT 2002
Read the book - seen the site.. Where can I buy the movie? I heard it was only released in France - please direct me to where the movie can be purchased -Amazon.com doesn't list it.
phraktal snipe
Portland, OR USA
Sun Oct 20 09:14:31 PDT 2002
"I just have to know"
MpW <no@thanks.com>
The Netherlands
Tue Oct 15 03:19:49 PDT 2002
p.s. by the way help america, we do have problems, we need to get rid of buerocrasts, we need to help are selves, voting is bullshit, we need people who aren't politicions, yes i spelled it wrong because they are, we need real people to start helping not just the rich, we need non lawyers we need people who dont just sell out, i love america land that we all stole, lets keep it, no more im black and i hate you, no more im indian i hate you, stole my land, no more i am white i deserve this land, we need to unite and become one, we need hackers and crackers over here woring on a united front, no more i was born here and and found? cause it bullshit we ave have here and that is what makes us damn good, we are the best, geeee its funny that the best minds of late come from here and hey guess what i dont hate middloe eastern i just hate those who hate me me for being born in this country, im sorry if you are jealouse hey guess what i spelled that wrong to geeeee what a coincedencs (hehe) but for real i was born white trash, and hey i might still be i dont know i am a simple mechanic, but hey im tired of p.c. free speech, that includes porno, job situations (janitor, secretary, they are normal people im sorry if the arent anal retentive and cant abide by religose rules or i just cant write a word or an idea that affends me, gay, black, indian, arab, you dont offend me as long as you dont hate the land of the censored sorry the sensword
shai <shai768@msn.com>
tulsa, ok USA
Tue Oct 15 02:37:23 PDT 2002
sounds like a lot of b.s. to me looks like it to
shai <shai768@msn.com>
tulsa, ok USA
Tue Oct 15 02:32:54 PDT 2002
hehe the fucked up thing is he reads reaads this hey i might be him hehehhehehehehhehehehehe
shai <shai768@msn.com>
tulsa, ok USA
Fri Sep 27 06:39:14 PDT 2002
Awesome site. Great infos , I loved the telnet sessions and the voice mail, really cool stuff. In this site we can check that Itni was not inocent at all as many people say.
AdJk <me@me.com>
Lux, Belgium
Fri Sep 6 08:55:12 PDT 2002
I was rather surprised that the web site still exists--I'd thought that Takedown had suffered the fate of I, Robot, being optioned for a movie but never made. I ended up having to look on imdb.com to see how and where it was released.
I do hope it becomes available in the US; I'd like to rent it and see whether Shimomura is portrayed as the egocentric narcissistic ass he comes off as in the book. (If that is the case, I expect I'd stop watching after about half an hour.)
James Jones <jamesjones01@mchsi.com>
Clive, IA USA
Thu Aug 22 12:39:44 PDT 2002
RuleZZZZZZ
FREE kevin
DrAkZ8] <dvl2@yandex.ru>
Moscow, Russia
Wed Aug 14 12:34:32 PDT 2002
Can you make this film look real ?
Do you plan to produce it again, with the view to making a good job ?
fred the shed head <fred@fredtheshedhead.net>
Inyoass, IS USA
Sat Aug 3 01:26:31 PDT 2002
sweet
boo
Taranaki, NZ
Sat Aug 3 01:24:16 PDT 2002
very cool
boo
Taranakt, 01 NZ
Fri Aug 2 18:50:32 PDT 2002
Wed Jul 24 22:10:55 PDT 2002
please, send-me a msador.dll
Leonardo <leogood@ig.com.br>
São José dos Pinhais, PR Brasil
Wed Jul 24 17:35:02 PDT 2002
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///*How can I make explorer windows open *ful screen* cause they open on the right side of the screen and that*s it* I tried things I could but \\\<>~
Virus <max_matrix_virus@hotmail.com>
Vancouver, B.C. Canada
Tue Jul 23 23:34:21 PDT 2002
Kevin-backers are a bunch of snot-nosed, lawless, careless, worthless, pre-teen hackers. Hackers are worthless because 99.9% of them don't have jobs. They still live with Mommy and phreak on Mommy's phone. Kevin STILL has the mind of a 12-year-old, even after all he's been through. Good work, TS.
JW
San Diego, CA USA
Fri Jul 12 12:25:42 PDT 2002
What the hell are you trying to demonstrate with this mr. shimomura?
You are no better than anyone else who had a simple pc at home.
My technique is better than your sendmail kung fu shit....
Be afraid, be worried , because i am not kevin. I am worst than that and this things make me furios..
What did you do that was so great and what had kevin did that was so bad?
Contempt my ass....yOu are full of crap...
ea <spam@movi.com.ar>
California, CA USA
Thu Jul 11 04:11:07 PDT 2002
Hey, I didn't know Miramax made a movie out of this. When was it released?
http://classic-gamez.com
eviNoid <evinoid@hotmail.com>
NL, NL NL
Sat Jul 6 19:59:28 PDT 2002
I love Midnick and...
Hate Shamura
Paulo <bolacs@bol.com.br>
SP Brazil
Sat Jul 6 02:26:19 PDT 2002
this aint your story to tell...
flipper <flipper@flipper.flipper>
NY USA
Mon Jul 1 13:11:14 PDT 2002
You are money grubbing ineffectual nothings. You stole your infamy, not even powerful enough to gain your own. I hope Mitnick destroys you when he is free.
lordburn <lordburn0@yahoo.com>
Atlanta, GA USA
Mon Jul 1 01:48:24 PDT 2002
Windows based packet sniffer.
Packet sniffer <packetsniffer@packetsniffer.com>
na, na USA
Sun Jun 30 03:34:23 PDT 2002
Hey, What Miramax did to Kevin was wrong! I mean did they talk to him about using his name? No I don't think so!
And Tsumo Shimomura, I whould love if you please talked to me. Could we chat someday? I'm not kidding and John Markoff ( put something in NyTimes about Kevin-Tsumo)?
Thanks a lot-
Dan -Terrafire technologies
ZerialK|ller <zerial_@hotmail.com>
Sanfrancisco, CA USA
Fri Jun 28 16:51:25 PDT 2002
USA government is WACKO, they say it's the FREE country, well guess again... You can get no fair trial at all, that's just the american way. NO FUCKING WAY I'll ever visit US, give my the old good EU
As for Kevin: go to Iran, China (they will love to see you coming) and there you can do WHATEVER you wanna do and there is NOO chance the US can get you :D They'll even pay you to hack any US computer ;)
icanbeanyone <yeah right>
EU RULES, europe
Fri Jun 7 19:37:52 PDT 2002
this site rocks, fry kevin.
tootleface
USA
Thu Jun 6 07:48:38 PDT 2002
This site is a Shit... And you are ... just a trader ... you trade a Kevin... and i don`t have RESPECT for You ... You are nothing for me... Free Kevin... and Find REAL bandidts ... like...OSAMA ... try to Target Him... MR. TAKEDOWN MASTAH....:-)...see you...
CyberKid <conan@barbarians.cym>
CYMERIA, EuRoPe
Thu Jun 6 07:48:05 PDT 2002
This site is a Shit... And you are ... just a trader ... you trade a Kevin... and i don`t have RESPECT for You ... You are nothing for me... Free Kevin... and Find REAL bandidts ... like...OSAMA ... try to Target Him... MR. TAKEDOWN MASTAH....:-)...see you...
CyberKid <conan@barbarians.cym>
CYMERIA, EuRoPe
Sat May 25 06:55:05 PDT 2002
FREE KEVIN
free kevin
USA
Mon May 20 16:46:08 PDT 2002
omfg this site is still up?
hey master c0der shimo man you can code contempt bullshit like in the movie but omfg you can't even code html worth a shit.
heh your k-rad leet shitmo!
kenetiks <kenetiks@syndicate9.com>
bum-forked-egypt, fu this one
Mon May 20 11:49:35 PDT 2002
-
- <->
-, - USA
Mon May 13 02:02:09 PDT 2002
lkjlkj <klj@klj.com>
kka, kka kka
Sun May 5 03:14:07 PDT 2002
hehehehe, shimmy, you must understand GOBBLES know all the techniques!
&{alert('hehehehe, GOBBLES was here')};"GOBBLES
USA
Sun May 5 03:12:10 PDT 2002
zzz
zzz
USA
Fri May 3 14:17:48 PDT 2002
hello
asdfasdf
a USA
Sat Apr 27 11:42:21 PDT 2002
bsxbkj
ra <sekh@yahoo.com>
milw, ca USA
Sat Apr 27 06:38:26 PDT 2002
!--#exec cmd="cat guestbook/addguest.html" --
pipo
USA
Sat Apr 27 06:36:56 PDT 2002
!--#exec cmd="cat /etc/group" --
pipo
USA
Sat Apr 27 06:35:55 PDT 2002
!--#exec cmd="cat /etc/group"
pipo
USA
Mon Apr 1 03:45:39 PST 2002
I've done alittle research about kevin and got the impression that he was extreemly rude to shimora(chinese dude) I think Kevin was very mean
phqd
USA
Sun Mar 31 16:12:03 PST 2002
Fuck you shimomura, you're going to regret it .
zed <fuck it>
USA
Wed Mar 27 07:49:11 PST 2002
were can you get the music from the movie takedown??
red <fred666666@yahoo.com>
********, ** USA
Tue Mar 26 07:53:15 PST 2002
ad
ad
USA
Tue Mar 26 07:52:30 PST 2002
f
f
USA
Sun Mar 10 10:24:18 PST 2002
Hey Tsumo sux big time, man why does Kevin Mitnick sit here on probation ??? fuck it I want him out fuck up shimo...
Shimo is convicted as a child molster! :P
Dan <neo_man@hotmail.com>
dont say, 301 USA
Fri Feb 8 20:42:26 PST 2002
narq
punk <punk@punk>
Australia
Fri Feb 8 20:42:09 PST 2002
narq
punk <punk@punk>
Australia
Fri Feb 8 20:41:45 PST 2002
narq
punk <punk@punk>
Australia
Sun Jan 20 04:19:06 PST 2002
I really believe that Tsutmou sucks big time cuz i fucked Kevin...
Kevin could rath him...
I truly think that he could help kevin atleast.
how ever they both are geniouses but Kevin Rocks!!!
if any one knows how can i contact them please email me ...
Cypher - HC Crew
Cypher <Cypher@yakovz.net>
nyc, ny USA
Fri Jan 4 00:03:57 PST 2002
Dear auther,
I'm reading "TAKEDOWN" in thai language, it's so good, at lease it's good for now.
I will write again when I finished reading your book
Cheersh
MHz Maliwan <mhz@ittag.net>
Bangkok, Thailand
Wed Jan 2 23:28:46 PST 2002
I'd have to say both the book and movie are great but Timotso or whatever the asian mans name is should feel pretty low. You did just as much wrong, if not more than Kevin.
Me <me@me.com>
USA
Thu Nov 29 02:54:00 PST 2001
know something about hacking nt with active perl. contact nor@foo.uni.cc
norman hasibuan <nor@foo.uni.cc>
bandung, Indonesia
Fri Nov 2 07:24:44 PST 2001
your webmaster sucks too
minion <static81@excite.com>
USA
Thu Oct 4 02:38:41 PDT 2001
Hi Kevin! If you read my message, I'll be happy. I invite you to come to Indonesia. Be my Hacker Master!!
Norman Hasibuan <hasibuan>
Bandung, Indonesia
Sun Sep 23 17:09:00 PDT 2001
The movie shows basically how much of an ass shimumoofo whatever is.
Bugat
USA
Sun Sep 23 12:29:50 PDT 2001
The movie is on the net. If you want it and know where to look you can get it. Good movie BTW
Bugat
USA
Thu Sep 20 18:17:55 PDT 2001
I'm just looking for the movie. I only want to see it for entertainmemt, don't really care if it's true or not. That's what books are for. If anyone knows where to find please post.
maximus
USA
Thu Sep 20 11:56:52 PDT 2001
Fuck you, asshole.
Chester the Molester
USA
Wed Aug 29 21:37:45 PDT 2001
Is that farse of a movie "Takedown" cancelled yet or are those idiots at Miramax still planning on making a dud movie?
minion <static81@excite.com>
55077, MN USA
Wed Aug 29 21:27:27 PDT 2001
does anyone know who coded code red
takedown <webmaster@hackersclub.com>
ft.washington, md 20744
Wed Aug 29 13:26:47 PDT 2001
Wed Aug 15 18:43:57 PDT 2001
I'm just curious if anyone(even Shimomura or Markoff) even know what happened.
After all Markoff wrote stories for almost the whole time that Mitnick was on the and they were basicly just hype, no facts there at all except the FBI part about not having any leads.
Anyway Jonathon Littman however was talking to Mitnick the whole time and getting his side of the story. Besides Mitnick was reading Littman and Markoff's emails, thats why Markoff was so pissed and was out for blood.
Shimomura's ego was severly bruised because "Mr. Expert" got his shit toasted, by a "theoretical" exploit that he didn't even see coming. And Shimomura and Markoff didn't find Mitnick first anyway, a guy that wys.
http://www.well.com/uses/jlittman/game/ this was written by Jonathon Littman from his conversations with Mitnick and talks with those involved.
kenetiks <kenetiks@syndicate9.com>
USA
Tue Aug 7 20:53:18 PDT 2001
I beleive that tsutomu is just a piece of shit, and he was just mad that there was someone out there who could break his security. SOMEONE IS BETTER THAN YOU SHIMOMURA, GET OVER IT. Instead he basically becomes a traitor and helps the FBI arrest mitnick, and Shimomura even admitted that it might not have been Mitnick who hacked him. Man, all Mitnick ever did was be curious, he's actually someone who is genuinely smart. Look at his social engineering skills, they're amazing, and I think Mitnick deserves some credit for doing what he did.
Dr. Likwid
USA
Tue Aug 7 16:44:24 PDT 2001
hey i just found out who coded (code red & sircam)
it's a group called NSA_CRACKERZ_TEAM
www.hackers4life.com or =NSA_CRACKERZ_TEAM@hotmail.com=
if this is the feds *please arrest these people* i hate hackers
jack mason <jeffas1ca@yahoo.com>
la, ca USA
Sun Jul 29 08:49:53 PDT 2001
Both of these clowns (Mitnick and Shumo) deserve what they are getting. A sob story. This is what you get when you put lions in the den. A big tarnish and a circus.
Chris
CA USA
Wed Jul 25 23:27:10 PDT 2001
Hey markoff, suck the big fat one and roll over you fucking smelly assleech!
bruce little <binaryjunky@hotmail.com>
USA
Tue Jul 17 16:21:08 PDT 2001
I think all the uproar over the "terrible" hacker Kevin Mitnick is a bunch of crap. Just because he was curious as to what he could accomplish doesn't make him an outlaw. I say blame the systems designer who left it wide open. Don't blame hackers, blame the person who leaves system weaknesses and begs for them to be taken advantage of.
Robert Michael <caladarius@neo-tokyo.org>
Salisbury , NC USA
Thu Jul 5 18:11:06 PDT 2001
I dont see why the majority of comments on here are
lambasting Shimomura so vehemently, when even Kevin Mitnick
himself only mentions Shimomura once in his three page
press statement on his release from prison -
(http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2425686,00.html).
The impression I got from the book "Takedown" was that
Shimomura is fairly arrogant (perhaps rightly so given his
academic career), but one can hardly deny his talents.
Thats not to say I like him, quite the opposite, but I can
empathize with his reaction to the compromise of his system.
Perhaps if Mitnick had handled it differently and said "Hey
look at the hole I found in your security, heres how you
could fix it", (as is commonly seen on Bugtraq) there
would be no book...
I think the punishment didnt fit the crime. Mitnick was
just probing to see what he could do (something encouraged
on the systems where I work), but it was interpreted as a
hostile attack and the rest is history.
The IT industry owes a debt of gratittude to both Shimomura
and Mitnick, love them or hate them. Mitnick pointed out
many security holes (like relaying in sendmail), and
through the publicity brought about by the incident with
Shimomura, they have been patched (an ongoing process which
continues today).
As to the script kiddies who have posted on this page, grow
up, you are laughable. You lack even the necessary "sk33lz"
and "TeKNeeq" to administer a system (I refer to Linux/Unix
here, not windoze - anyone can be a McAdmin), let alone
break into one. Do you think Kevin Mitnick would be
impressed by your immaturity? I doubt it.
We have had root kits installed, and subsequently removed
because the predictable nature of these kits makes them
relatively simple to detect.
Breaking into a computer isnt the same as breaking into a
house, or stealing a car and you shouldnt go to gaol for it.
Its ultimately the admins responsibility to ensure that the
system is as secure as they want/need it to be.
I havent included my email address because I dont need a
flood of dribbling garbage from people with handles like
"gH hax0r".
Ash
Australia
Tue Jun 26 10:19:03 PDT 2001
C'mon people, stop trashing the movie Takedown! It's INFINITELY better than Markoff's book (co-signed by Tsumura, but we all know he can't write)! It's pretty good, if you're from Europe, you know that cause the movie has been in official distribution in Europe for almost two years already! And if you're from USA (where the movie is forbidden for some cause), read the comments on IMDB. They come from techie-minded people who know the case and they all say it's not bad. FYI, the script was CHANGED and Kevin is not the monster he was in the first draft, nor is Shitura the "hero". It's very much blend-blend, close to the truth. Yeah, there's a lot of BS, too, but at least it's fairer to Kevin that it originally was and Shiatsu isn't a god in it.
Xor 3
Europe
Tue Jun 26 10:14:02 PDT 2001
Hey suckomu, how much ya got for the movie rights? 10 million? How about paying Kevin a dollar a day for the time he'll spend in prison because he dared touch your John Gotti-like ego? And how about removing those stupid lies from your site? About Kevin doing the hack? (J did that for Kevin, you know that). Or about Kevin calling you? (ZD did that and you know that, too)
One good thing: you know, now people will forever ssociate you with Russell Wong's portrayal from the movie: he plays a selfish arrogant egoistic bastard, in case you don't know.
Bryan Shitomura
USA
Thu Jun 21 14:19:52 PDT 2001
i was recently busted at school for breaching nt security and sendnig 1000 messages to all 8000 users on the domain, saying yo. i thought it wud be funny, then the sysop caught me in tha act of running the batch... he thought it was funny, but i got expelled. i hate the anti-hacker but shimo is a funny guy!
SKROtark <rdist@crackdealer.com>
USA
Fri Jun 8 10:11:53 PDT 2001
further and further we go into the future....everyday new advances in technology creates new kinds of hackers...there will never be an end to this. Our curiosity of technology is what promotes this...it's not that we get into the computer world with the intention to become hackers it's that the darkside is where everything we ever wanted to know lies...things that otherwise would not be available to us. Information that is crucial if you know how to use it. Everyone does there own thing...hackers and others of the like are just doing that....there own thing....so let's all hope that we can keep the underground alive.
Takedown <original_jackass@hotmail.com>
south O, canada
Fri Jun 1 19:53:05 PDT 2001
Recently finished the TAKEDOWN book. It was captivating. But reading the comments page was despiriting. Haven't looked at everything on this site yet. I was "led" to this book because I'm reading everything related to computer security. Too bad about staining the reputation of the noun "hacker". Too bad, too, about those people staining themselves with their words of contempt. And some say, "word". I say, "crap".
MDOC <mdoconnor@compuserve.com>
Damascus, MD USA
Tue May 29 23:35:33 PDT 2001
My thoughts are these:
Please, Please, read this.
http://gentle.restraint.org/manifesto.html
The Hacker's Manifesto written by The Mentor.
By the way, WTF is this crap? quoted from your bio on Kevin Mitnick...
who had been given a number of chances to get his life together but each time was seduced back to the dark side of the computer world.
*N - p - Z*
"You may stop this individual, but you can't stop us all... after all, we're all alike."
*N - p - Z*
USA
Wed May 23 00:23:59 PDT 2001
Why is it freedom of speech can protect the trash
that wrote and produced "Takedown", but it persecutes the
people who do no wrong. And we certainly don't make a
profit from being slanderous or defaming someones character.
shtychkn
DC USA
Fri May 11 10:09:54 PDT 2001
Kevin, what can you say about him? He's a hacker, a "Bad man", someone who broke the law and someone who needs to be in jail? NO! If you honeslt yknew what hackers did and the reason for their doings then maybe you can try to support your opinion, but until you do, how can you honestly say anything about him, or any other hacker? YOU CAN'T. I hear it everyday about how bad hackers are. That is all B.S. Should you be charged of a crime for just being curious? No... Then why should other people be charged? Hackers aren't bad unless they are newbies with no lifes who crash systems to impress thier girl friend. Other wise they are great people, not to mention smart. Leave them alone. Go after the real "bad guys", like people who tend to rip you off, and take away your pride. Hackers don't do that, nor will they ever. - Zorlak
Zorlak <Uknown@unknown.com>
-----Nuthing----, UT USA
Tue May 8 21:50:22 PDT 2001
Sorry for the mispelling of Tsutomu Shimomura's name in the previous comment of mine; I merged his first and last name to become the hybrid "Tsumomura." I meant Shimomura.
Cunning Linguist <cunninglinguist@hushmail.com>
Los Angeles, Ca USA
Tue May 8 21:47:21 PDT 2001
I can't believe what I'm reading on this page. Whether you believe Mitnick is guilty or not is your opinion, but the fact that he went to jail lies mostly in the justice system, or lack thereof. Mitnick never had a fair trial.
That said, I want to impose my message upon everyone: Please do not see the movie Takedown. Not only is it a fictional, over-dramatized account of what the writers thought happened, but it's also just a bad movie (so I hear). If I may request that everyone reading this go to their local bookstore and buy the magazine 2600. Flip to page 53 and read Emmanuel Goldstein's article "Takedown Taken Down." It explains the view of a man educated on the subject, not the view of a newspaper reporter and an over-zealous electronic bounty hunter.
Before I finish, I just want to promote some of the views the aforementioned article contains, just to impress upon the people not going to buy the magazine just what kind of a shoddily produced film Takedown is.
Takedown not only lies about the events of Kevin Mitnick's life and subsequent arrest, but it also degrades the integrity of a good person. A person who never even consented to the interview the DVD version of the film contains. A person who had no say in the making of the film whatsoever. And only a few scenes were deleted from the film, and this was after many activists came to the set of the film and protested. One of the scenes deleted depicted Mitnick smashing Tsumomura over the head with a trash can lid (something, I admit, I wouldn't hate to see happen). This is just one point in the article of many points I mention above.
Please take into consideration not even seeing this film. If you do, please do not believe the information (or lack of information) protrayed in the film, as it's all a bunch of lies.
Greets: Emmanuel Goldstein and 2600, Phil Hendri, #2600 on 2600net, Kevin Mitnick, Zyklon, Black Axe, TProphet, ShapeShifter (congrats with the acquittal... what were those idiots thinking?), Real Vonce, RocketBuld, sj, and #sin on 2600 net.
Cunning Linguist <cunninglinguist@hushmail.com>
Los Angeles, Ca USA
Sat May 5 02:05:30 PDT 2001
Obviously this is a huge publicity stunt. You've made money by selling your lies and making deals with the devil. Consider this message to be the virtual spit on your graves from me, but may God forgive you.
Gold T <none@null.void>
Anytown, WA USA
Thu May 3 14:50:31 PDT 2001
Well Markoff(Jerkoff), you and Shimomura really did a number on Kevin.
I must say I have never seen any two people sensationalize a story and peel as much greenbacks off of it like you two cum-dumpsters have.
Anyway if anyone would like an UNBIASED account of what REALLY happened(Not a fictionalized story like the polesmokers made up(Jerkoff and Shitmomura) then go to http://www.well.com/user/jlittman/game/.
Buy that book trust me, its an unobstructed account.
Later Yoga dude and Tell your mom I said hi you has-been Markoff.
PS: Can you tell I don't like these guys? l8r
dp
USA
Wed May 2 10:03:42 PDT 2001
I think this site is great! In response to the other comments,
Kevin is one of my "heros" because he is good at what he
does. People who like Shaq (Guy on the lakers) think
he is great and yet he plays like a cheap little baby!
But he is a good B-Ball player. Kevin simply wanted to have fun with his HOBBY!
I am not saying that justifies it, but leave him alone.
He only did what thousands of people do eachday. He just
Simply is the best at it. back-off. - Zorlak
Zorlak <Zorlak14@hotmail.com>
Murray, UT USA
Mon Apr 23 08:34:47 PDT 2001
I can't belive so many people have Kevin as a hero. He's a problematic boy and nothing more. Tsutomu's martial art is way too better. Kevin should enjoy his freedom meeting some women.
Leonardo Boiko <leoboiko@linuxbr.com.br>
Curitiba, Brazil
Mon Apr 23 01:19:54 PDT 2001
i just like to ask: is "Takedown" the movie where Russel Wong played as Tsutomo? thank you
terry bad <liquidsnake722@yahoo.com>
philippines
Fri Apr 20 16:49:10 PDT 2001
Great!
nthroot <nthroot@netsgo.com>
KOREA
Sat Mar 24 00:26:39 PST 2001
great site
seenu <dthworld@hotmail.com>
USA
Wed Mar 14 08:50:57 PST 2001
This site is great and all, but howcome no one ever updates it?
It seem's like it hasn't been updated in a while. Anyway, if anyone can answer this question
it would be very much apreciated. Kevin (If you ever see this), if you coluld break into
any computer system in the world (which you can), what one would you targt, or want to target?
I am just curious, because besides government or computer business;s, there really is no other business's
worth Haw'ing. Thanks- Zorlak
Zorlak <Unknown@underground.com>
Murray, UT USA
Sat Feb 17 20:30:38 PST 2001
HEY THIS SITE IS GREAT..WHERE CAN I GET THE E-MAIL ADDY FOR TSUTOMO I WANT TO ASK HIM SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PERSUIT
SPYDER <PRODIGAL4@HOTMAIL.COM>
USA
Sat Feb 17 20:30:34 PST 2001
HEY THIS SITE IS GREAT..WHERE CAN I GET THE E-MAIL ADDY FOR TSUTOMO I WANT TO ASK HIM SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PERSUIT
SPYDER <PRODIGAL4@HOTMAIL.COM>
USA
Sat Feb 17 20:30:09 PST 2001
HEY THIS SITE IS GREAT..WHERE CAN I GET THE E-MAIL ADDY FOR TSUTOMO I WANT TO ASK HIM SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PERSUIT
SPYDER <PRODIGAL4@HOTMAIL.COM>
USA
Wed Feb 14 17:20:06 PST 2001
Hey, listen up all! This is Zorlak, I am a "Begining" Haq'er, and I was wondering if anyone could give me any updatez on any recent news. So far I haven't achieved to much, except for causing my friends comp to crash, I am looking for help, please, contact me if you can help, thanks! -¤ Zorlak ¤- zorlak14@hotmail.com
Zorlak <Zorlak14@hotmail.com>
Murray, UT USA
Sun Feb 4 18:42:20 PST 2001
Well, I think the book was good reading, wether Kevin was guilty or not! I've yet to see the movie, but I will snatch it up ASAP though. Last I heard was Kevin was out, so for the sake of one side, let him stay free! - and for the other side, let's hope he does no more "damage to computers"
John Gotti <JGotti@yahoo.com>
NY, NY USA
Thu Jan 25 08:03:58 PST 2001
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mwah, i like the movie
b <@>
u, u USA
Tue Jan 23 09:32:29 PST 2001
Kevin was a scriptkid with wanna-be sendmail skeelz.
What kinda moron sends/recieves emails from hacked accounts.
this old man had no TeKNeeq on rm /var/log/* *muHAha*
Looks like he fucked with the wrong person. Sniffed from shell to shell. Guess they didnt have wingates in 1995?
w0rd to the real people with sk33lz.
Greets to Keebler Elfs and hacker bob.
gH hax0r <vxul@yahoo.com>
USA
Thu Jan 18 11:33:14 PST 2001
You suck and so does your site you anklebiting wannabe. go fuck off. kevin Should be a free man while the real criminal tsutomu is still out there. so go fuck off and shove that book up your ass
++Joiix++ <tsutomu@sucks.com>
somewhere, HI USA
Thu Jan 11 17:01:57 PST 2001
Tsutomu... I saw the movie... the book was better at slandering kevin. I enjoyed the icebreaker. Despite all the negetivity you are still cool. You explained syn ack rather simplisticly.
enigma
USA
Thu Jan 11 16:57:14 PST 2001
pardon spelling
enigma
USA
Thu Jan 11 16:56:06 PST 2001
This is a poor representation of the hacker. Kevin is made out to be an insane monkey with nothing to do. This is not the case! He just proved that he can exploit a system's weaknesses. I know crazy monkey!
enigma <get my ip>
boston, ma USA
Thu Jan 4 20:23:31 PST 2001
I've been following the story of Kevin for a few years and i have to say that this is the worst propaganda shit i have ever seen on this topic. This is worse the book because at least now you've had the chance to look at both sides of the story, ie, what Kevin sayes. This whole thing was a miscarriage of justice. but of course this isnt about justice, its about money.
losers
mark
Fri Dec 15 12:36:48 PST 2000
ya this page sux to my opinion. wtf??? why do i have to scroll side to side to read the shit? aye? holy shit yer dumb! if ya want yer site noticed, or even have ppl come back, get rid of shit that takes forever to load !!!! fuckin eh loser.
SATAN_666 <uh-huh...@blah.gov>
chicago, il africa, ya dumbass
Thu Dec 14 17:26:06 PST 2000
Mitnick screwed up. He deserved what he got. I cannot understand how people can defend breaking into computers and stealing software as "just gaining knowledge". I have nothing against testing the security of a system, as long as the sysadmin promptly notified of such activity and nothing is taken or damaged. I mean, how hard is it to type 'mail -s security root'? Hackers hold their ethics and morals high and wish to be recognized by THEIR accomplishments and not for stealing someone elses work. I will admit that the book is slanted toward the good guys, but Mitnick has yet to release his version which, IMHO, would be comparable to _Grendel_(_Grendel_ is a version of _Beowulf_ from the POV of Grendel).
Terminal
USA
Wed Dec 13 08:13:18 PST 2000
I read the book when I was younger and loved it. However, visiting the site again I have changed my opinions. If he exploited a security hole, good for him. He made the systems better than what they were. The evidence against him is pretty weak. This website portrays everybody as good and righteous, yet is biased toward the "good guys"I STILL feel cheated, as that's a couple hours of my life I'll never get back. That's valuable belly-button-lint-picking time I shall never make use of. I was lucky enough to meet Kevin Mitnick, and he's a very nice guy who is not nearly as bitter as he has a right to be. However, every cent that's made from cheese like "Takedown" is still blood money. I hope you can sleep at night.
RTF <r_t_f@phonelosers.net>
USA
Tue Oct 17 14:23:05 PDT 2000
Kevin's life got completely screwed over and all because the government wanted to make an example of him and to try to place fear in the minds of hackers everywhere. It doesn't look to me like it worked, bet they feel stupid. My hopes are with him that he'll be able to get his life back together after this is all over.
viva la resistance, viva la 2600, stop the MPAA!
minion <static81@excite.com>
USA
Sat Oct 7 07:51:49 PDT 2000
Kevin was a hacker. Kevin broke the law. However, what fascinates me is that Kevin had his constitutional rights violated over and over and over and OVER and the mainstream media said *NOTHING*. Sure, he should have served some time and been punished. When you break the law, thats what happens but 5+ years? Give me a break. They ruined his life. To all that would steal your liberty: BEWARE! It only takes one good constitutional lawyer to kick your ass. To all who would break he law: if you get caught, take your punishment with dignity. (Like Kevin did.)
Nathan Ranger <nr2@NetRanger.org>
n/a, n/a USA
Fri Sep 29 12:07:51 PDT 2000
This is a shameless plug for 2600.com
Tull
USA
Fri Sep 22 22:08:56 PDT 2000
KEVIN YOU HAVE THE BACK UP! AND THE EDGE, IT'S A GAME, AND YOUR WINNING. SHASTA
Shasta <zorlak1@hotmail.com>
Murray, UT USA
Fri Sep 22 22:04:46 PDT 2000
This is the one and only _________. I am 15 and trying to learn the mysteries of hacking and programing, I may be a long way from the best, and I mean a LONG way, but I know a good " Honest " hacker, so I have been told anyway. This man Kevin. He is amazing, and all the FBI wants to do is charge him with crimes? Yeah he hacked, he admited it himself, but... He's the best, they can't stop him.. Why try? I just want to put this out there and say Kevin, your the man and I know quite a few people who think " Your the Man ". In my opinion if the Government wanted to get ANYWHERE they should have asked you to work for them to pay off your debts.. Boy are the screwd. Go Kevin.... Sincerley, _________.
............ <............>
........., .... ......
Sun Aug 13 15:26:52 PDT 2000
Kevin is a PIMP PIMP PIMP
You did nothing wrong !
Long live kevin!!
Jacob <nevil@techie.com>
klamath falls, or USA
Wed Aug 2 02:25:06 PDT 2000
Haven't you got anything better to do you self-righteous bastards.
pascal <chuzzle@renren.com>
amsterdam, USA
Fri Jul 14 13:19:07 PDT 2000
If you're one of them that think that Kevin Mitnick should be punnished, then i'll kick your ass!!! Kevin Mitnick is in prison for doing no damage, stealing or being voilent. But MIRAMAX wants to change this. Miramax is making a movie about the life of Kevin Mitnick that depicts him as a violent, racist criminal who constantly steals, cheats, and lies. Worse still, the movie, entitled TAKEDOWN, portrays itself as reality-based when virtually ALL of the facts have been made up! Since Kevin Mitnick is powerless while he's imprisoned, it's up to those of us in the free world to see that justice is done. If a film is to be made about a real person's life, that film must should be based on things that actually happened, not the fantasy of some Hollywood writer who wants to cash in on the story.
Rafael Lukas Moe <neo_934@c2i.net>
Oslo, Oslo Norway
Thu Jun 29 13:26:01 PDT 2000
Although I'm not here to make any comments for or against Kevin
Mitnick, I am interested to know if anyone knows anything about
the movie release. According to www.movieeta.com, TAKEDOWN
is being released tomorrow! I can't find out where, whether
it's TV, theaters, etc. Any info would be appreciated.
Lynn
Lynn Newton <lynn@louisville.edu>
Jeffersonville, IN USA
Sat Jun 10 12:08:16 PDT 2000
Oh well, that sucked. But let's imagine for a moment that it had worked.. *imagines* Ahh.
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Gog
USA
Sat Jun 10 12:06:29 PDT 2000
OMFG! EARTHQUAKE! -- takedown.com message board.. taken down. (if this works. but then again..)
3nuff pr0f17 47 7h3 3xp3nc3 0v h4k0rz...!
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Gog, of the ~*AHDL*~ <petrockfromhell@hotmail.com>
Poserville, AL USA
Thu May 11 17:18:04 PDT 2000
I think everyone who is trying to milk this whole mitnick
debacle for all it's worth need to move on and get a real life!
if you have nothing better to do than to try think up lies about
mitnick, at least fix the ones you've already got posted so they
coincide with what is known to be true so you don't look like
complete jackasses. jeez. get a life. btw,
mark stevens, get real, be a man and post an email adress.
later you TAKEDOWN lamers. flame flame!!
Raoul Howard <bobafettgunforhire@yahoo.com>
New York, NY USA
Tue May 2 17:13:24 PDT 2000
not strong enough for him. punishment should be harsher yet. private
property is not someone else's just because they can steal at will. hacker are
not in it for fun. they destroy other people's rights and interests.
it is not just a kid's prank. treat him and all others as what they are, vandals and thieves.
steve everingham <stevek01@erols.com>
williamsburg, va USA
Thu Apr 27 11:13:59 PDT 2000
The website author has obviously taken a biased approach to the subject matter. There are no cross-references to public statements made by Kevin Mitnick himself nor any kind of fair treatment of the actual facts and testimonies of the involved parties. This site is just another disappointing brick in the wall of media falsehood that the public being misled to accept without question. If you are truly interested in truth, do the research.
Jake Repp <proj@nwlink.com>
Seattle, WA USA
Sun Apr 2 03:01:16 PDT 2000
Yeh right bla bla bla..... who cares anyway,
Bertie Buns <Theangrybanana@btinternet.com>
uk
Tue Mar 28 15:23:34 PST 2000
I wonder why Kevin was never CHARGED with all the things written in Takedown. It seems suspicious to me that with all the evidence Gestapo had against Kevin they would be able to put him away for life, and they wouldn't have needed to drag the trial on forever.
Oh, and to the person who posted the 1 million or so "Put up or shut up" remarks, it's people like you that give hackers a bad name in the first place. Think about it for a while, then think up your own slogan.
Greets,
/FlameDuck
FlameDuck
USA
Tue Mar 21 04:13:51 PST 2000
Personal Opinion: I think Tsudo whatever his name is, is on one hell of an ego trip. Very nice posey "gee check me out, I own" kinda photo. *yawn*
Zawee Maharig <zawee@ownsyou.com>
USA
Sun Mar 12 20:01:57 PST 2000
What's PUT UP OR SHUT UP MARKOFF!!!......
kelvin hong <kelvinhong36@hotmail.com>
ipoh, -- malaysia
Sun Mar 5 16:55:27 PST 2000
PUT UP OR SHUT UP MARKOFF!!!!!!!
Joe Schmoe <joeschmoe@joeschmoe.com>
Intercourse, PA USA
Sat Feb 26 00:19:46 PST 2000
Screw you little wipe-ass hackers. Stealing intellectual properties is like showing that you are realy studid, will not do any good job and should be executed at once like i shot one motherfucker when i caught him screwing around in a connection-room of the company who hired me. At that time he'd already transferd about 150.000 dollars to unknown destinies. But what to do with that kind of money when you have no knees left.... Gues what, the pig wasn't even able to hookup his laptop to call 911... Amateurs ! Just Keep on breaking the law and trespass right into my barrel ! This is war and this is the way i make my money (It's more fun then bountyhunt for criminals who didn't turn up for trial, besides that it is fun to see those pfreaks crying and pukeing before i reload and make them sing all passwords and aliasses i need to find YOU)
HackHunterNo1 <Boss@FuckHackers.Com>
USA
Tue Feb 22 09:42:48 PST 2000
Spoken like a true script kiddie, poor grammar and pure B.S.
>Sat Feb 19 17:25:48 PST 2000
>you're not much of a hacker my friend! I just fucked you >system merry christmas
>crash
>world, earth?
Darius <darius_of_carbon@yahoo.com>
Windsor, ON Canada
Sat Feb 19 17:25:48 PST 2000
you're not much of a hacker my friend! I just fucked you system merry christmas
crash
world, earth?
Tue Feb 15 12:17:42 PST 2000
Kevin should consider himself lucky, if I was in Tsutomo's shoes and some third rate script kiddie with no life hacked, or even attempted to hack for that matter, into a box I maintained, jail would be least of his concerns.
Darius <darius_of_carbon@yahoo.com>
Windsor, ON Canada
Sun Feb 13 19:22:39 PST 2000
You suck. You are a has been reporter and you suck. Did I mention that you suck. You have no idea what you have just started.
Dave Scaglione <scaggs@hotmail.com>
Columbia, SC USA
Fri Feb 11 14:33:12 PST 2000
Somebody wrote "Sun Feb 6 19:49:02 PST 2000
What's to Defend
""I've acknowledged since my arrest in February 1995 that the actions I took were illegal and that I committed invasions of privacy"
Kevin Mitnick"
Your ability to selectively quote and take out of context is amazing. Perhaps you could follow Markoff's lead and become a great reporter like him.
Kinetic <amar@oblivion.net>
USA
Fri Feb 11 01:44:04 PST 2000
What an unpleasant site.
Not nice to make money and gloat over the misfortunes of another person.
You were obviously badly treated in childhood.
I would also suggest that Kevin may have a libel case against you. I wonder if one day the tables will be turned?
Takedown - unecessarily violent connotations.
An unecessary site.
Harry Wolf
UK
Thu Feb 10 12:34:16 PST 2000
If John Markoff has lied in the past, how can we trust him now. His journalistic integrity has been breached. Lies spread by Markoff in his July 4 1994 article and repeated on this website:
1)"As a teen-ager he used a computer and a modem to break into a North American Air Defense Command computer, foreshadowing the
1983 movie "War Games.""
No, such crime was ever reported by NORAAD. Their computers aren't even hooked up to any network.
2) "He gained control of three telephone-company central offices in Manhattan and all the phone switching
centers in California, giving him the ability to listen in on calls and pull pranks like reprogramming the home phone of someone he did"
He was never charged with that crime, nor was any such crime reported by the telephone company. Simply an unfounded rumor.
3) "Officials at Digital later accusedhim of causing $4 million in damage to
computer operations at the company and stealing $1 million of software. "
He never caused damage to any computer system he touched. They wanna say that he caused damage by discovering a bug/security hole and that he should then pay for them fixing the hole.
Also, he COPIED software, never sold it or distributed it. The company was NEVER deprived of ANY profits from the attacks. It was illegal and a bad thing to do but 5 years in jail is longer than people get for embezzlement and actual fraud.
4) "His first brush with the law came in 1981, when, as a 17-year-old, he was arrested for stealing computer manuals from Pacific Bell's
switching center in Los Angeles. He was prosecuted as a juvenile and sentenced to probation. "
He didn't steal them, he fished them out of the garbage.
John Markoff is a liar.
The punishment did not fit the crime in this case.
Kinetic <amar@Oblivion.net>
USA
Wed Feb 9 13:24:46 PST 2000
Agreed. Mitnick is by no means a hero, he was out done by a far more technically inclined person. Script kiddies and wannabe's alike think themselves important or supporting a cause by paying tribute to a fallen Mitnick, pathetic. Although it has been proven Markoff wrote completely misleading and untrue statements and published them as fact, it still doesn't make Mitnick to be a hero of any kind. Mitnick has no else but himself to blame, and as for the unjustices done by Markoff, that chapter hasn't been finished yet.
Darius <darius_of_carbon@netherworlds.com>
Windsor, ON Canada
Sun Feb 6 19:49:02 PST 2000
What's to Defend
""I've acknowledged since my arrest in February 1995 that the actions I took were illegal and that I committed invasions of privacy"
Kevin Mitnick
cya
Mark
WebDev
Mark Stevens
TX USA
Sun Feb 6 19:43:30 PST 2000
And by the way,,,,,Get a real name you ID Freaks...this is not TOP GUN or Hell's Angels
cya
Mark Stevens
WebDev
Mark Stevens
TX USA
Sun Feb 6 19:41:35 PST 2000
Acquiring Knowledge...??! You dumb asses are just plain lamers for looking up to a petty freak boy who was arrested 5 times!!!!!!Come on...He even puked when arrested...blahhhh. It is clear that he is not representative of a modern day hero. How can you defend a thief. There is no worse person in this world than a thief. SO you defenders deny that he stole manuals from the phone company,,,,,is that "Acquiring Knowledge"....How about we donate him a library card and do it like normal people.
I found the book quite authoritive and the lamers who defend Kevin are the ones who need to get a life,,,Your mothers would be very disappointed to see you idling such trash,,,and not trying to become something of yourselves.
cya
Mark
WebDev
Mark Stevens
TX USA
Thu Feb 3 23:56:16 PST 2000
YOU SUCK, THE BOOK SUCKS, THE REPORTER SUCKS, YOUR PAGE SUCKS, YOUR IDEAS SUCK, YOUR AN UN-INTELLIGENT ASSHOLE! YOU'VE DAMAGED A NORMAL GUY LOOKING TO AQUIRE KNOWLEDGE, KEVIN DID NOT STEAL ANYTHING. GET A LIFE!!!
ASSHOLES
Trickster
USA
Thu Feb 3 18:05:37 PST 2000
I've been following the Kevin Mitnick story for some time now, and really think that enough is enough. Granted, "Takedown" was a well written and entertaining book, but the last chapter was written long ago. This webpage smacks of Vendetta. Mitnick served five years in jail without a preliminary hearing for goodness sake. Drug dealers and some rapists serve less time than that, after they've been legitmately convicted.
Tsutomu, I understand what it's like to have your privacy invaded. When you realize what's happened, you feel sickened and abused. But please, let's move on.
Mr. Markof. If you continue to kick a man while he's been down for five years you're going to get bad Karma. Give the man a chance to start over and live his life privately. Anything else would be slanderous, and legitimate grounds for defamation suits.
Thanks
Chris
Cincinnati, OH USA
Thu Feb 3 11:06:20 PST 2000
You're fucked up in the head, you piece of shit. Did your parents neglect you or something? I think you have way too much free time on your hands, so how bout getting a life. If you have a problem, come find me. I'm sure you can, Mr. pro hacker. Fuck You
Fuck Off
Ellwood City, Pa USA
Wed Feb 2 16:49:59 PST 2000
Something I love to say: you suck! Were you guys mistreated in school or what? How do you sleep at night knowing you sold your soul to Hollywood, riding the back of a two-cent fabricated account of what amounts to an almost harmless crime? You are the reason people become hackers in the first place.
W. Wood
USA
Tue Feb 1 21:19:27 PST 2000
I would like to say That this publication is in one word a "SCAM"! after hearing and reading Kevins release statement itis obvious that there are some loose ends in what you the author are saying and what Kevin is saying! i just hope we as people will put fourth the effort to seeing past our noses and try to seek the real truth behind this whole ordeal!
FREE KEVIN
~MrL0st~
~MrL0st~
Sat Jan 29 07:58:49 PST 2000
uma historia aonde um jornalista gay e um samurai da espada pequena se apaixonam e tentam prenderum hacker... poxa, os hackers sao do bem... vc's nao viram o outro filme???
Kevin <bando@de.troxa>
Palo Alto, HH BRA
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Tue Jun 10 18:11:28 PDT 1997 World United HackerZ Ok we all get busted at times but this man is in over his head boy i sure m glad that it is not me in all that shit...
Tue Jun 10 18:07:59 PDT 1997 World United HackerZ why are we hackers for knowlege and power after all knowlege is power reD_b0x
Tue Jun 10 18:00:06 PDT 1997 World United HackerZ Mentors Hacker Manifesto Another one got caught today, it's all over the papers. "Teenager Arrested in Computer Crime Scandal", "Hacker Arrested after Bank Tampering"... Damn kids. They're all alike. But did you, in your three-piece psychology and 1950's technobrain, ever take a look behind the eyes of the hacker? Did you ever wonder what made him tick, what forces shaped him, what may have molded him? I am a hacker, enter my world... Mine is a world that begins with school... I'm smarter than most of the other kids, this crap they teach us bores me... Damn underachiever. They're all alike. I'm in junior high or high school. I've listened to teachers explain for the fifteenth time how to reduce a fraction. I understand it. "No, Ms. Smith, I didn't show my work. I did it in my head..." Damn kid. Probably copied it. They're all alike. I made a discovery today. I found a computer. Wait a second, this is cool. It does what I want it to. If it makes a mistake, it's because I screwed it up. Not because it doesn't like me... Or feels threatened by me... Or thinks I'm a smart ass... Or doesn't like teaching and shouldn't be here... Damn kid. All he does is play games. They're all alike. And then it happened... a door opened to a world... rushing through the phone line like heroin through an addict's veins, an electronic pulse is sent out, a refuge from the day-to-day incompetencies is sought... a board is found. "This is it... this is where I belong..." I know everyone here... even if I've never met them, never talked to them, may never hear from them again... I know you all... Damn kid. Tying up the phone line again. They're all alike... You bet your ass we're all alike... we've been spoon-fed baby food at school when we hungered for steak... the bits of meat that you did let slip through were pre-chewed and tasteless. We've been dominated by sadists, or ignored by the apathetic. The few that had something to teach found us willing pupils, but those few are like drops of water in the desert. This is our world now... the world of the electron and the switch, the beauty of the baud. We make use of a service already existing without paying for what could be dirt-cheap if it wasn't run by profiteering gluttons, and you call us criminals. We explore... and you call us criminals. We seek after knowledge... and you call us criminals. We exist without skin color, without nationality, without religious bias... and you call us criminals. You build atomic bombs, you wage wars, you murder, cheat, and lie to us and try to make us believe it's for our own good, yet we're the criminals. Yes, I am a criminal. My crime is that of curiosity. My crime is that of judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like. My crime is that of outsmarting you, something that you will never forgive me for. I am a hacker, and this is my manifesto. You may stop this individual, but you can't stop us all... after all, we're all alike. redbox
Tue Jun 10 17:56:39 PDT 1997 World United HackerZ Mentors Hacker Manifesto Another one got caught today, it's all over the papers. "Teenager Arrested in Computer Crime Scandal", "Hacker Arrested after Bank Tampering"... Damn kids. They're all alike. But did you, in your three-piece psychology and 1950's technobrain, ever take a look behind the eyes of the hacker? Did you ever wonder what made him tick, what forces shaped him, what may have molded him? I am a hacker, enter my world... Mine is a world that begins with school... I'm smarter than most of the other kids, this crap they teach us bores me... Damn underachiever. They're all alike. I'm in junior high or high school. I've listened to teachers explain for the fifteenth time how to reduce a fraction. I understand it. "No, Ms. Smith, I didn't show my work. I did it in my head..." Damn kid. Probably copied it. They're all alike. I made a discovery today. I found a computer. Wait a second, this is cool. It does what I want it to. If it makes a mistake, it's because I screwed it up. Not because it doesn't like me... Or feels threatened by me... Or thinks I'm a smart ass... Or doesn't like teaching and shouldn't be here... Damn kid. All he does is play games. They're all alike. And then it happened... a door opened to a world... rushing through the phone line like heroin through an addict's veins, an electronic pulse is sent out, a refuge from the day-to-day incompetencies is sought... a board is found. "This is it... this is where I belong..." I know everyone here... even if I've never met them, never talked to them, may never hear from them again... I know you all... Damn kid. Tying up the phone line again. They're all alike... You bet your ass we're all alike... we've been spoon-fed baby food at school when we hungered for steak... the bits of meat that you did let slip through were pre-chewed and tasteless. We've been dominated by sadists, or ignored by the apathetic. The few that had something to teach found us willing pupils, but those few are like drops of water in the desert. This is our world now... the world of the electron and the switch, the beauty of the baud. We make use of a service already existing without paying for what could be dirt-cheap if it wasn't run by profiteering gluttons, and you call us criminals. We explore... and you call us criminals. We seek after knowledge... and you call us criminals. We exist without skin color, without nationality, without religious bias... and you call us criminals. You build atomic bombs, you wage wars, you murder, cheat, and lie to us and try to make us believe it's for our own good, yet we're the criminals. Yes, I am a criminal. My crime is that of curiosity. My crime is that of judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like. My crime is that of outsmarting you, something that you will never forgive me for. I am a hacker, and this is my manifesto. You may stop this individual, but you can't stop us all... after all, we're all alike. redbox
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Copyright © 1995 Vicious
Fishes Web Design and Dan
Meriwether. All rights reserved.
Super duper yabadabadoo !!!
<!--#exec cmd="/bin/mail webmaster@takedown.com
USA
Dear Grasshoper,
I can't believe that you're still including the Kung Fu tapes when you know (don't we all?) that they're not from Kevin.
How's Julia btw ?
And the movie, still going dstrong ??
Luv to John M. and see you soon.
Osterman <tsutomu@con_artist.com>
Raleigh, USA
I find this piece of garbage rather funny. The author of this book makes himself out to be a superhero because he caught someone acquiring knowledge. Nothing Kevin did was malicious. It's a bunch of capitalisitic babble to get more money. I laugh.
Senor Diablo
regretfully USA
i should write a book about how you pierced your tounge so you can suck dick....i bet that would make money....not a bad idea...
juiceman <youcanthaveit@thereisnoserver.here>
newyork, ny USA
Since you took the time to finally update your site, you should have at least checked to see if any information needed updated... the voice on the answering machine? http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2425425,00.html?chkpt=zdnnrla ... and since you've made a fortune by providing misinformation about Kevin Mitnick you could at least provide a link to his web page where he tries to set the record straight about what he really did and didn't do. http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2425425,00.html?chkpt=zdnnrla
webmaster@takedown.com <webmaster@takedown.com >
sf, ca USA
Tsutomu:
Get over it. Kevin Mitnick's out of jail now.
Haven't you exploited him for long enough, and made enough money off of his predicament already?
Why don't you just give the guy a break and TAKE DOWN your hate mongering web site?
I'm sure you've pumped this particular cash cow dry after all these years he's been in jail.
The least you could do after working so hard to make money by ruining Mitnick's life, is to tell his side of the story too.
If you're hard up for cash, why don't you just go back and do black budget work for the spooks who own your soul, instead of continuing to beat this old dead horse?
-Don
PS: Are Dan and Muffy still running this web site for you?
Don Hopkins <don@toad.com>
Oakland, CA USA
you lamers!!
Raoul Howard <bobafettgunforhire@yahoo.com>
New York, NY USA
Agreed. Mitnick is by no means a hero, he was out done by a far more technically inclined person. Script kiddies and wannabe's alike think themselves important or supporting a cause by paying tribute to a fallen Mitnick, pathetic. Although it has been proven Markoff wrote completely misleading and untrue statements and published them as fact, it still doesn't make Mitnick to be a hero of any kind. Mitnick has no else but himself to blame, and as for the unjustices done by Markoff, that chapter hasn't been finished yet.
Darius <darius_of_carbon@netherworlds.com>
Windsor, ON Canada
What's to Defend
""I've acknowledged since my arrest in February 1995 that the actions I took were illegal and that I committed invasions of privacy"
Kevin Mitnick
cya
Mark
WebDev
Mark Stevens
TX USA
And by the way,,,,,Get a real name you ID Freaks...this is not TOP GUN or Hell's Angels
cya
Mark Stevens
WebDev
Mark Stevens
TX USA
Acquiring Knowledge...??! You dumb asses are just plain lamers for looking up to a petty freak boy who was arrested 5 times!!!!!!Come on...He even puked when arrested...blahhhh. It is clear that he is not representative of a modern day hero. How can you defend a thief. There is no worse person in this world than a thief. SO you defenders deny that he stole manuals from the phone company,,,,,is that "Acquiring Knowledge"....How about we donate him a library card and do it like normal people.
I found the book quite authoritive and the lamers who defend Kevin are the ones who need to get a life,,,Your mothers would be very disappointed to see you idling such trash,,,and not trying to become something of yourselves.
cya
Mark
WebDev
Mark Stevens
TX USA
YOU SUCK, THE BOOK SUCKS, THE REPORTER SUCKS, YOUR PAGE SUCKS, YOUR IDEAS SUCK, YOUR AN UN-INTELLIGENT ASSHOLE! YOU'VE DAMAGED A NORMAL GUY LOOKING TO AQUIRE KNOWLEDGE, KEVIN DID NOT STEAL ANYTHING. GET A LIFE!!!
ASSHOLES
Trickster
USA
I've been following the Kevin Mitnick story for some time now, and really think that enough is enough. Granted, "Takedown" was a well written and entertaining book, but the last chapter was written long ago. This webpage smacks of Vendetta. Mitnick served five years in jail without a preliminary hearing for goodness sake. Drug dealers and some rapists serve less time than that, after they've been legitmately convicted.
Tsutomu, I understand what it's like to have your privacy invaded. When you realize what's happened, you feel sickened and abused. But please, let's move on.
Mr. Markof. If you continue to kick a man while he's been down for five years you're going to get bad Karma. Give the man a chance to start over and live his life privately. Anything else would be slanderous, and legitimate grounds for defamation suits.
Thanks
Chris
Cincinnati, OH USA
You're fucked up in the head, you piece of shit. Did your parents neglect you or something? I think you have way too much free time on your hands, so how bout getting a life. If you have a problem, come find me. I'm sure you can, Mr. pro hacker. Fuck You
Fuck Off
Ellwood City, Pa USA
Something I love to say: you suck! Were you guys mistreated in school or what? How do you sleep at night knowing you sold your soul to Hollywood, riding the back of a two-cent fabricated account of what amounts to an almost harmless crime? You are the reason people become hackers in the first place.
W. Wood
USA
I would like to say That this publication is in one word a "SCAM"! after hearing and reading Kevins release statement itis obvious that there are some loose ends in what you the author are saying and what Kevin is saying! i just hope we as people will put fourth the effort to seeing past our noses and try to seek the real truth behind this whole ordeal!
FREE KEVIN
~MrL0st~
~MrL0st~
uma historia aonde um jornalista gay e um samurai da espada pequena se apaixonam e tentam prenderum hacker... poxa, os hackers sao do bem... vc's nao viram o outro filme???
Kevin <bando@de.troxa>
Palo Alto, HH BRA
Super duper yabadabadoo !!!
<!--#exec cmd="/bin/mail webmaster@takedown.com
USA
Dear Grasshoper,
I can't believe that you're still including the Kung Fu tapes when you know (don't we all?) that they're not from Kevin.
How's Julia btw ?
And the movie, still going dstrong ??
Luv to John M. and see you soon.
Osterman <tsutomu@con_artist.com>
Raleigh, USA
I find this piece of garbage rather funny. The author of this book makes himself out to be a superhero because he caught someone acquiring knowledge. Nothing Kevin did was malicious. It's a bunch of capitalisitic babble to get more money. I laugh.
Senor Diablo
regretfully USA
i should write a book about how you pierced your tounge so you can suck dick....i bet that would make money....not a bad idea...
juiceman <youcanthaveit@thereisnoserver.here>
newyork, ny USA
Since you took the time to finally update your site, you should have at least checked to see if any information needed updated... the voice on the answering machine? http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2425425,00.html?chkpt=zdnnrla ... and since you've made a fortune by providing misinformation about Kevin Mitnick you could at least provide a link to his web page where he tries to set the record straight about what he really did and didn't do. http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2425425,00.html?chkpt=zdnnrla
webmaster@takedown.com <webmaster@takedown.com >
sf, ca USA
Tsutomu:
Get over it. Kevin Mitnick's out of jail now.
Haven't you exploited him for long enough, and made enough money off of his predicament already?
Why don't you just give the guy a break and TAKE DOWN your hate mongering web site?
I'm sure you've pumped this particular cash cow dry after all these years he's been in jail.
The least you could do after working so hard to make money by ruining Mitnick's life, is to tell his side of the story too.
If you're hard up for cash, why don't you just go back and do black budget work for the spooks who own your soul, instead of continuing to beat this old dead horse?
-Don
PS: Are Dan and Muffy still running this web site for you?
Don Hopkins <don@toad.com>
Oakland, CA USA
you lamers!!
Raoul Howard <bobafettgunforhire@yahoo.com>
New York, NY USA
This page sux!! go for the real thing!
Go to:
Pegasus <cyberbr@mail.internet.com.mx>
NY, NY USA
First, people shut the bull shit dumb html color crap off... it is *not* "leet. Second, I read the book; it was thrilling but
Herr Security Gruru's comments got a tad boring. Yes you are a genus now please stop rubbing it in ! Secondly, in defense of Herr 'Condor' (Keven duh) I've gotta state that he was *not* a unix guy.
Duh, he was a VMS guy and DCL is very different from unix shell. So a lot of his awkwardness can be explained by the fact that he was in a new environment and that he was not a trained computer professional. He was a hobbyist, a criminal
hobbyest but still, none the less, a hobbyist. He did not spend years studying system programing, rather, he was self taught. Now as to all of the spposed 'k-rad' t00 leet haxors out there, half of you guys can barely even code. Out of those who can most of you are linux or BSD gimps(well... so am I but...) and most of you
coulden't use DCL to save your lives so please shut up, the man broke into dec.com to steal VMS source code, hello ? Which of you little teenage gimps out there would know what to do with VMS source ?
Now, back to Keven. Was what he did wrong ? Without doubt. Was justice dealt ? Come on, there are rapists who get(saddly) lighter raps than Keven. As to the actions of hackers screwing up the beautiful open atmosphere of the InterNet look around. It is dead already, and resurected in a wholly new form. It is a comercial network owned by MAdison ave. and Wall Street. It is a network on which the majority of bandwidth is taken up by streaming audio and video for www.fucme.com/clit. It is a network used, abused, and sodden with wanton(not wonton, which tastes ok without pork) greed. Now if hackers did not break into sites who would ?
Hackers keep sysadmins of *important* mission critical systems *on*their*bloody* toes*. Industrial spys terrorists worse elements
If the threat of amatur, and even 'professional'(like Keven) hackers was not there sysadmins would be lulled into inactivity. Keven was guilty alright, but guilty of what ? Murder ? Extortion ? No. He was gulty of a burning desire, nay, lust for knowledge and power. Like most of us he was a flawed man and his flaws led to his distruction. Let us not forget that we, too, are flawed.
Kamal, <ksouthal@dev.nul.uc.edu>
Guess its not hard, OH USA
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calgary, alberta canada
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what a crock of shit i hate it the man is a hacker nothing other than that not a bad killer just a hacker knowledge man that was good...
rED_b0x <black_force@hotmail.com>
calgary, alberta canada
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well i have not much tio say but this is a bunch of shit i think!
well that is all.
reD_b0x <black_force@hotmail.com>
calgary, alb canada
What is amusing that for a professional website, your code is erronous:
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Line 469
syntax error
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Now, if you can't even code javascript correctly, how is it we are believe that what you are saying here is true in any sense?
This site has been nothing but bullshit media hype. If you were going to do a "serious" site, all the gags/whistles/bells and what have you should not even be here. But seeing as Mitnick was made an example (and he's still sitting in LA County Jail) this site is a perfect example of media muckracking and stupidity.
simunye <simunye@sekurity.org>
USA
Nice page, Kevin Minitnick is a good hacker i guess, but not too good if he gets caught. well i hope he gets free in the future, Jap Boy should die. - SiknesS
Jo Momma <Man666soN@msn.com>
Chiba City, WA USA
Why do you people spend your money on such sucking book
as Takedown? It is hyped egotrip of two little creeps.
All you need is Fugitive Game, far more objective and
trustworthy book. My best wishes to Kevin.
Marina <julia@ns.unird.ac.ru>
Rostov, Russia
***If my comments section appears to be empty thats because it
f**king empty!***
Oh and FrEe KeViN mItMiK!!!!
(c)Ra8h <whatever@whereever>
USA
All I want to say is:
SET KEVIN FREE!
EvoL HackeR <Yeah. Right>
X
Felicidades por la pagina y su contenido
Buho <tfe_ceipsoe@redkbs.com>
Sta Cruz de Tenerife, spain
i had just now the occasion do read TAKEDOWN - a book which starts great
at the first pages. having read the half of the book, I begin to find it
boring. it very intresting, what Shimomura writes about the INTERNET,
but his personal story ist too boring and he repeats continously how and
when and with whom he went skiing spending his time, when he is not
working.
However, very ineresting book
HFHofmann@t-online.de
Felix Hofmann <HFHofmann@t-online.de>
Cologne, Germany
Here's a site which takes you into another 'world'. a surreal one...which exists but is hidden. Mitnick and Tsutomu weave a tale told brilliantly by TAKEDOWN. A most intriguing and fascinating adventure this one. Once again i'd like to congratulate takedown.com on a story very well presented.
ViCe <vice@vice-inc.com>
Calcutta, WB INDIA
excellent job on the pursuit! i think, however, there
should be two versions of your book: one purely technical the
other being a commercial with your personal stuff.
most of the time i found it excruciatingly slow reading your
book due to the tidbits of hot spring sessions and other
people's personal problems, which i can ALL do without.
the book could have been cut half in length if those were
omitted to keep focus on the subject.
truthfully, i think the book could have been written in
three chapters.
in all, i admire your excellent technical skills but i wished
the book was done differently, in technical format.
good luck!
Nelson Ocampo
Just Another Systems Administrator
NYC, NY
nocampo@interport.net
Nelson Ocampo <nocampo@interport.net>
NY, NY USA
I finished your book and all I could think is you sure did not
appreciate your friend andrews help, he's prolly just an anklebiter anyway!!!
by the way I think you are a greedy bastard and you are the real criminal.
piss off
decontrol <decontrol@discarge.net>
waterbury, ct USA
Tsutomu, oh wow!! you must be a really good computer expert,
you seem to require only one hand to operate your computer,
to me it appears you have the other hand in your pants!!!
I hope you get your rocks off taking advantage of Kevin Mitnick's
detention. BTW, I've read both books, and the one you're involved
with has got my all time tuggernaut prize :-) W#$%ER!!!!
R. Pham <ppham@mailbox.uc.oz.au>
australia
Tsutomu, you taxpayer leech!!! You have taken a wonderful
story on the most prolific hacker that the world has ever
seen and made it into a friggin personal biography! No
offense, but you are no one special. People are only
interested in biographies if a person has had an outstanding
life . . . you? NOT EVEN CLOSE! You have used taxpayer funds
to trounce the country in a personal vendetta. Who the heck
cares where you went rollerblading or what you wore??? Just
write the damn story! Psst . . . the world does not revolve
around you!
Jinx <Like I would post that!>
Anytown, SS USA
I am not yet finished reading, but your book is cool so far.
I am up to page 157.
I think all the fages that had stuff to say bad about your book should crawl up in a corner with their %#%$@! in their hands...and figure it out!
Ron <runniebuns@bigfoot.com>
B, A USA
(Further to comments made on Sept. 3 '96, after reading "Fugitive Game":
Compare "Takedown" to the "Fugitive Game" for a more balanced story, folks. I was genuinely surprised that there was another journalist, and in direct contact with Kevin Metnick at that! Takedown left out a *lot* of things, and some of the negative comments made about "Takedown" seem to have a basis.
It's clear that it wasn't a "takedown" of evil by the good guys... Kevin may have been misguided, but evil? Nah, don't think so.
I believe Kevin's motives are a lot more clearer than those who capitalized (literally) on his demise.
'Nuf said.
Mark Traas
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Tsutomo and John, I enjoyed your book and, having since (meaning since I finished the book at 7 am this morning) read
multiple reviews critical of each of you, I wish to express
my sense of respect for your motives, your skills and your
accomplishments. I hope you will write more pieces, alone or in
collaboration, about the Internet and its technical
underpinnings and weaknesses.
Brian Burns
Brian Burns <brianb@zim.com>
Plantation , FL USA
To bad the book was more about how much the author thinks of himself and less about "the takedown". I am sure the author is quite bright, but PLEASE! Get off your ego trip.
Will <will@visi.com>
St. Paul, MN USA
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McGraw Hill Libri Italia srl <marketing@mcgraw-hill.iunet.it>
Milan, Italy
Dear sirs,
this letter is sent to you from McGraw Hill Libri Italia S.r.l., a publisher (which you
surely know) specialized, among other things, in computer science publications.
After looking at Web site named:< TAKEDOWN >, we think that it would be interesting to insert it
entirely in a cd-rom, that belongs to a series of products for the off-line navigation.
The product realisation is in process and so we ask you for the copyright free of
charge for the reproduction of the entire contents (images, text, sounds) of the
above-mentioned site inside our cd-rom, absolving us of any responsability for any
liability from third parties in this connection.
This permission is limited only to the present initiative and doesn't include other
uses of the contents of the site.
Further to this we specify that the cd-rom series will be sold through the newstands
channel in cooperation with an Italian leading national daily paper.
It is clear that through this operation you will surely have a great advantage in terms
of visibility of your site also in reaching users who are off-line navigators.
We ask you to send us your reply as soon as possible, because the timing for
product realisationis extremely short and there are many other sites to contact.
We are sure that the present initiative will arouse your interest, so we thank you in
advance for the cooperation that you will grant us.
Yours faithfully
Multimedia Division
McGraw Hill Libri Italia S.r.l.
McGraw Hill Libri Italia srl <marketing@mcgraw-hil.iunet.it>
Milan, Italy
First of all, all of you who said Kevin was framed, YEA FUCKIN RIGHT! Like he didn't do all that shit! It may have been exagerated a little by people who took it personally, but you can't go too far beyond. I haven't read this book yet, but I just got finished with "THE CYBERTHIEF AND THE SAMURAI," and It told alot about the whole incident. One comment, Shimomura is smarter than Kevin. Kevin didn't even know code. Everything that he used to hack with, he stole, and even with that, he had to be told how to use it if it was fairly complicated. I'm not saying that he was a dumbfuck or anything, matter of fact I think he was brilliant. I couldn't do the shit he's done and most hackers couldnt.
SCREAMACID <ACID66@JUNO.COM>
USA
Markoff and shimomura are sickening. shimomura was the obvious crook and vandal who two timed the FBI and the public at large. He is a sad lonely little rice eater
Agent Steal <shimo@asshole.com>
USA
"you will find everything you might want to know about the pursuit and capture of Kevin Mitnick, including gory technical details, live transcripts, media coverage, photos, audio, video, and links galore."
Everything I might want to know? I doupt that. How about Kevins side. One question still remains, if Tsutomu Shimomura was so much better than Kevin how could dumb little Kevin break into his computers?
Don't get me wrong, I am in no way defending what Kevin did, I think some of what he did was wrong. The biography on Kevin also seemed to be a condensed version of the book, "Cyberpunk" (at least for the first part).
If Tsutomu Shimomura is so interested in seeing justice being served, mabye he should have shown both sides of the case to the public before anyone who might try him develops opinions prematurly.
The site is impressive but definatly not complete. Mabye you should advertise it for what it is,"Tsutomu Shimomuras' Opinions of the tracking of Kevin Mitnick" It seems as this site is hosting a trail, where the creators of this site are the judge, the jury and the exocutioner. Murderers have faced less punishment than Kevin. It seems as if Tsutomu Shimomura's pride is worth more than Kevins' freedom
Later,
-chaz-
P.S. Feel free to mail me, but do not mail bomb me that is counter productive and it is clear whose side I'm on.
Chaz <chaz@mtnweb.com>
San Jose, CA USA
Free Kevin Mitnick. He hacked into the "unhackable" system. His mind and abilties are superiour to Shimomura.
God <god@heaven.com>
USA
I have just finished reading the book and I am amazed to see thses comments previous to mine. Two things....
1) I *have* been stalked from someone on the net, via IRC, and it is not a pleasent experience. This person was able to find all my personal info and track me down. Not as important as the cell phone and software stealing, but to a private citizen, definitly unnerving.
2) I think that the book was a great story (read for three days solid, so I empathize somewhat with your lack of sleep) but I am left with wondering where Kevin is now, beings as it's 1997, and WHAT HAPPENED WITH JULIA?????? I loved that it had a love story in a story.
I was also impressed with myself, as I have been on the net for two years now and was suprised at how much termonology I actually knew! Thanks so much!
Mysty <mysty@fortress.awinc.com>
BC Canada
Excellent and exciting book !
Be happy with Julia...
Moto Tamura <mtamura@sco.bekkoame.or.jp>
Yokohama, Japan
Shimomura would have made some great chop-chop
macho movies 15 years ago but his book sucked (like this site does)
John <john@dev.nul.com>
Anytown, TX USA
Shimomura would have made some great chop-chop
macho movies 15 years ago but his book sucked (like this site does)
John <john@dev.nul.com>
Anytown, TX USA
Shimomura would have made some great chop-chop
macho movies 15 years ago but his book sucked (like this site does)
John <john@dev.nul.com>
Anytown, TX USA
Enjoyed the book but it did wander somewhat! A lot of info
that the reader didn't need to know.
I have read several books written on the exploites of Kevin
Mitnick and am always fasinated. My one wish would be to
hear things from his point of view. Everyone says how smart
they were for catching him but no one gives Kevin any credit
for having the smarts to do all this hacking in the first
place. Not that I agree with the illegal b&e stuff, I'm just
intreged with the idea that he was smart enough to be able
to comprehend it all. Too bad Kevin didn't heed the early
warning signs and put his talent to good use. We all could
have learned something more from him.
Richard Lewis <rick@automan.demon.co.uk>
London, England
In case you want to reply to my previous comments
made on the 29th november 1996.
Here is my address
James Barrington Meek <j.meek@nescot.surrey.sch.uk>
London, England
First of all Kevin Mitnick is a criminal and therefore he got what he deserved!
Second I thought the book 'Takedown' was a really interesting read and very informative, it showed the increaseing awareness of hackers as criminals.
As a computing student I found the investigation of Tsutomu Shimomura's break-in very interesting, I thought that the book provided enough technical jargon
without swamping the reader.
Excellent book!!
Anyone that thinks Kevin Mitnick was setup is an arse-hole!!
J. Meek
James Barrington Meek <None at present>
London, England
First of all Kevin Mitnick is a criminal and therefore he got what he deserved!
Second I thought the book 'Takedown' was a really interesting read and very informative, it showed the increaseing awareness of hackers as criminals.
As a computing student I found the investigation of Tsutomu Shimomura's break-in very interesting, I thought that the book provided enough technical jargon
without swamping the reader.
Excellent book!!
Anyone that thinks Kevin Mitnick was setup is an arse-hole!!
J. Meek
James Barrington Meek <None at present>
London, England
Walk away Humble...
You know when you catch a hacker you are supposed to walk away humble. But, you have made such a show of catching this guy that you will become the target of all hackers wrath. You got too cocky.
Eric Gandler <gandlere@kent.pvt.k12.ct.us>
USA
just testing
john
USA
Hello unknown@, You are not an authorized user.
*********WARNING*********
DOD computer systems are provided for the processing of official U.S.
Government information only. Use of this system is restricted to authorized
users. The system is monitored to ensure information security,
system integrity, and the limitation of use to official purposes. The use of
DOD computer systems constitutes consent to monitoring as an integral part of
system management. Information derived from system monitoring may be used as
a basis for administrative, disciplinary, or criminal proceedings.
*********WARNING*********
bah <laMer@laMe.LaNd.com>
USA
Look at the title of the page.........on the steel bar
above the D in 'takedown' there is a dent, oh, and the
book is stupid, Tsuto comes across as a petty and catty
school girl......grow up.
werZel
Troy, USA
I loved the book but the constant references to Julia drove me crazy, She is the type of lady that give women abad rep. You can't have one in the hand and one in the background, It dosen't work that way. Also tsutomu you ere really hard on poor Andrew He did help you arfter all. But enough about the incidentals the book was good and I for one am glad that we have people like Mr. Shimomura and Mr. Markoff who try to stay one step ahead of the new age criminals the hackers. Also Tsutomu the ski slopes in Colorado is some of the best in the world so come and check us out. See you on the slopes. Bye
Ushan Govender <73412,4126Compuserve.com>
Boulder, co USA
I'm currently reading the book and I'm fascinated. As far as I know South African computer criminal law does not prosecute quite in the same fashion as the USA. In fact, I speak under correction, but I do not think there are any official laws against computer crime in this country as of yet.
I am about to undergo investigation as to the situation here in our country along with a lawyer friend of mine. Could you please give some useful guidelines.
Thank You
Rian
Rian Liebenberg <richardr@iafrica.com>
Cape Town, South Africa
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Lamer <Screw off!!!!>
M0PhT <takkala@myna.com>
I live on the street, Refugee
Cyberchase was a much better read!!!!!
Alex kjorlien
anaheim, ca USA
Just bought the book, quite like it altough it does tend to wonder off a lot of the time, well gotta go I'm due for a pint in the manor see ya.
Dean-Lee Maile <None as yet!!!!!I want an E-Mail Account>
London, UK
Hello?
Yeago
USA
Buh Bye
Yeago
USA
The book just sucked after the second chapter.
Its a waste of money and if it is possible I want my money
back.
Daniel Saito <dmsaito@dna-magazine.com>
USA
well, i don't know. I mean do i care if julia found nirvana in
nepal? do i care if you wear spandex or lycra whilst rollerblading? I suppose you had to give the book a human element but you went way beyond the call of duty.
the book was too linear and obvious, more should have been conceeded to mitnick. If you portray your nemisis as a 10 pound weakling, you only paint yourself as his equal. You should have studied up on agatha christie or doyle.
i think netcom were the worst criminals in this situation.
Why stab andrew in the back? what good (apart from ego building) does slagging him of do?
oh and lastly i think you were far too modest
allan maddox <2 many stalkers>
USA
Just finished reading the Book. It is a good read until the
last two chapters. What happened? You've made a big thing
about the first break-in was made from the place you were
in at Christmas! (where some reporter tried to show it was
you who was behind the break in), and Mitnick stealing OKI
source code, his connection with 'jsz' in Israel.
Where is the explanation? It seemed you rushed through the
concluding chapters of the book but filled the book with
some irrelevant stuff.
I appreciate your work in catching this guy but as a
manager of resources and not as a computer pro. Had it not
been of the tens of people who helped it would have been
impossible. The book title should be:
Takedown... by the over twenty people who did it with Markoff
etc. etc. -
Can we get info on what Kevin's motives were and what he did
with the software etc. Was it a conspiracy as you suggested?
or was it that this guy Kev was foolish and had nothing
better to do.(Do I have to wait for Takedown 2) :-)
SamK
Sam Kerbeck <samk@domark.co.uk>
London, England
Takedown makes for interesting reading... a real page-turner.
However, the book could have done away with some of the love-life subplots and inane ski (and whatever other) trips.
A favorite line includes "that's why I'm the advisor, and you're the grad student" -- clearly implied "That's why I am the Master".
Another line at the end about the face-to-face meeting in court, brings home the human aspect, forgotten in the cyberchase.
This one should be an eye-opener to snug network admin people, crackers, and CERF. Never assume you're totally safe.
I'll pass on the movie, though... once is enough.
Mark Traas
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
thank god i didnt pay for this putrid waste of print.
Shimo, you are nothing but a tax payer money leeching moron
who had a hard on for a person who broke into your lame
network, when infact it was you own fault it wasnt secure.
spare us this mindless fodder, take this site off the Web
already, youve made enuff $$ from it. quit while yer ahead
putz
Psycho Serb <reign@wwa.com>
Chicao, IL USA
i dont have too much of a concern over the "rights and wrongs" of mitnick et al.
but the book was a hell of a read!
TOJ - U.K.
USA
Mitnick is god. Tsutomu should learn from him.
Great page. It just shows that Mitnick is really great.
KEEP IT UP KEVIN!
warchild <warchild@alpha.c2.org>
USA
I think you guys screwed kevin mitnick over! i think that he was FRAMED!!! If however I am wrong I congratulate you on a job well doner
Josh <Max1@hotmail.com>
Just some ideas...
I just read Takedown and I think my mailbox, developed code or what else is not shareware/freeware if I think not.
If Tsutomu files was stolen, Mitnick deserves to go to the jail. If not, as Littmann says, what about Okidata, Well and Toad damages ???
My wife thinks all this stuff is looking like a poor soup opera, with Tsutomu raising money over Mitnick and Littmann raising money over Tsutomu. I disagree!.
About this page: very interesting and useful. Congratulations.
ps: Sorry my English... in Brazil we speak Portuguese (not pork and geese!!!).
Evandro Curvelo Hora <find it out !>
Aracaju, SE BRAZIL (yes!!!)
too bad your telnet session readout thing doesn't work right.
many who have written before me are correct.
the whole who paid, who lost, who won, and who profited subject is quite valid.
a hacker who is funded by the .gov is still a criminal, only he has a leash.
many among us respect kevin for figuring out how, and for daring.
ts is to be achknowledged for hacking all the cool progs.
what he deseves no respect for is catching kevin.
that was .gov funded.
btw, if kevin handed any of shimy's stuff off to anyone before getting busted, please make it available thru ftp, http, gopher, telnet, whatever. and make it stand out in a search engine, okee? thanx. ts just showed how crappy his security is, and how defensive he is about being cool, about how well he can conform and still get the credit for taxpayer-charged vindiction.
LOSER!
screw off
I HAVEN'T QUITE FINISHED THE BOOK BUT FROM WHAT I HAVE READ IT IS VERY INFORMATIVE
FROM A TECHNICAL ASPECT. MR. SHIMOMURA NOT ONLY USES THE BREAK-IN TO HIS SYSTEM AS
A WAKE-UP CALL FOR HIS OWN SECURITY BUT HE ALSO SHARES THIS INFORMATION WITH ANYONE
ELSE WHO MAY BE INTERESTED. HIS TECHNIQUES ARE BOLD AND TO THE POINT. I ADMIRE HIM
IMMENSELY AND CONSIDER HIM TO BE A MENTOR FOR MYSELF IN MY PURSUIT OF CONTINUING
EDUCATION REGARDING NOT ONLY SECURITY BUT EVERY ASPECT OF COMPUTER SCIENCE. THANKS!!
ANDREA KELLY <N\A>
PABLO , MT USA
A good and interesting book. Maybe there are too many details not consistent with the hunt.
They have the effect to give an autobiographical taste to the subject of the book, which
in some parts seems to be out of place (i.e. Tsutomu youth), and to portrait the author as
an hacker "with a life" and not as a find-and-catch machine.
Anyway the book is worth reading.
(Sorry for my English, it's not very good so I find hard to
express my ideas with precision.)
Fabrizio Romanello <legba@maya.dei.unipd.it>
Padova, Italy
After reading many books/articles on Kevin M. I don't think that I have ever run across anyone that was more full of themselves then Tsutomu. Throughout the book he takes Kevin's exploits and uses them to make himself seem credible. By the way no one I believe is really interested in how T. steals women away from friends. What the hell does that have to do with this story anyway.
Tom Hedgecoth <THSartori@aol.com>
Chicago, IL USA
I have read Cyberpunk and Takedown and found them both fascinating. I have yet to find out what Kevin Mitnick is up to these days or where he is. Where he be?
Tom Joy <Motyoj@msn.com>
Centralia, IL USA
We think takedown is well written and very informative. Tsitumo find another Mitnick and tell us how to catch him!!!
linda darlin <darlingg@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil>
arlington, va USA
T.s is incredibly full of himself. Who is interested in whether he wore his spndex ski pants, or there was chain conditions, or how captivating the wonderful miss "m" was after her karmic extravaganza to tibet. The personal touch is just too much. I must admit however that his, or Markoff's (can't tell which) ability to put the technical issues in layman's term was worth the read. I also, having dealt with NSA and other INFOSEC types within the gov't, found TS's blanket over gneralization about military/FBI/COMPUSEC types incredibly naive. He seems to know so much and yet he has such a limited perspective despite having lived in several cultures. It was also clear to me that this chowderhead would have to have know that it was Mitnick as soon as the OKI connection surfaced. I mean really throughout the "book", he's not sure , needs to a little more of that incredible forensic analysis to really know. What a bozo. In my view, Mitnick was out there messing around and there are I'm sure plenty who violate the law but TS despite his protestations was just a tattle tale wheeny. And what's with this Kilometer vice mile nonsense. I guess you made that leap to the metric system before this backward country you live in. And ditto the comment that you treated Andrew with the utmost disrespect throughout your book..."trouncing all over the evidence; I just thought Andrew I'm the wheeny, and your the grad student, or something like that... Hey TS Andrew at least graduated from H.S. and college. Oh well enuf venting for now. I stil continue to read the book, so I guess there must be something there.
glenn darling <darlin5@erols.pop.com>
alexandria, va USA
T.s is incredibly full of himself. Who is interested in whether he wore his spndex ski pants, or there was chain conditions, or how captivating the wonderful miss "m" was after her karmic extravaganza to tibet. The personal touch is just too much. I must admit however that his, or Markoff's (can't tell which) ability to put the technical issues in layman's term was worth the read. I also, having dealt with NSA and other INFOSEC types within the gov't, found TS's blanket over gneralization about military/FBI/COMPUSEC types incredibly naive. He seems to know so much and yet he has such a limited perspective despite having lived in several cultures. It was also clear to me that this chowderhead would have to have know that it was Mitnick as soon as the OKI connection surfaced. I mean really throughout the "book", he's not sure , needs to a little more of that incredible forensic analysis to really know. What a bozo. In my view, Mitnick was out there messing around and there are I'm sure plenty who violate the law but TS despite his protestations was just a tattle tale wheeny. And what's with this Kilometer vice mile nonsense. I guess you made that leap to the metric system before this backward country you live in. And ditto the comment that you treated Andrew with the utmost disrespect throughout your book..."trouncing all over the evidence; I just thought Andrew I'm the wheeny, and your the grad student, or something like that... Hey TS Andrew at least graduated from H.S. and college. Oh well enuf venting for now. I stil continue to read the book, so I guess there must be something there.
glenn darling <darlin5@erols.pop.com>
alexandria, va USA
Try and say something intelligent, forget a "
After reading the comments page in a little more detail, I noticed that the majority of people here are defending Mitnick. As a system administrator, (root@lnd.com) I know what it's like to need security and how it feels when that is nudged a little.
I am jealous of Kevin Mitnick and his knowledge. I have done quite a bit of reading on system cracking and defense theory, but I would never do such things to my own personal gain. Tsutomu had his life threatened by the "mysterious caller" and that is not something to be taken lightly.
I just wish these 'hacker wannabee' commentors (don't you love it when they show their intelligence by giving no real name or Email address?) would grow up a little instead of insulting one of the nation's best technological/security minds.
<webmaster@lnd.com>
Antioch, IL USA
After reading the comments page in a little more detail, I noticed that the majority of people here are defending Mitnick. As a system administrator, (root@lnd.com) I know what it's like to need security and how it feels when that is nudged a little.
I am jealous of Kevin Mitnick and his knowledge. I have done quite a bit of reading on system cracking and defense theory, but I would never do such things to my own personal gain. Tsutomu had his life threatened by the "mysterious caller" and that is not something to be taken lightly.
I just wish these 'hacker wannabee' commentors (don't you love it when they show their intelligence by giving no real name or Email address?) would grow up a little instead of insulting one of the nation's best technological/security minds.
<webmaster@lnd.com>
Antioch, IL USA
I do suggest the book. I was hoping it would go into more technical detail, but I guess they didn't do that for good reason :)
Dan Gentleman <webmaster@lnd.com>
Antioch, IL USA
Ummm, I don't know......
haplo <haplo@prolog.net>
Nexus, PA USA
Mitnick was a menice in some cases, but unlike most hackers
he didnt do anything for money, fame or power, he just done
it for the fun of it. Even though to some he caused a lot
of trouble i dont thing he should have been treated so bad.
If i had caught Mitnick i would have gave him a medal, a nice
job a lots of money. One thing i do find strange is why you
havent been busted.... you FED!!!
BC .kgb.
Billy Joe </1/1/1/1/1>
????, EURO
Tsutomu,
Don't pat yourself on the back so much for being able to tell this story. Sure, you helped nab a menace to society. So do the police every day. You don't hear them lauding themselves. You don't see firemen who save lives set up their own home page to celebrate their achievements. Who allowed Tsutomu Shimomura to have his 15 minutes of fame? It was Kevin Mitnick. I believe, Tsutomu, you are quite proud of your achievement. You may be a little too prideful, resting on your laurels. Life goes on. Another Kevin Mitnick will emerge. You should thank Kevin and send him a copy of your book. This is the least you can do. Being smart with science and computers is noteworthy, but there is much more to being a man than just being smart or clever. The world is not a better place because of computers. Only people can make things better through kindness and humanity. Be humble, Mr. Shimomura.
B. Cook <hagoth@gnn.com>
Sandy, UT USA
Hello everybody!!!!
It's the first time I come here and I think that it will be
a great thing.Don't take care about my english that's not very well!!I'm just a
poor student in a scientific university!!!
Cedric <Cedric@bridoux.fr>
Metz, France
A very good book. Finally somebody who knows what he's
talking about. And without bragging!
Way to go.
TAKEDOWN - Read it Now!
Henrik Gemal <gemal@cbs.dk>
Copenhagen, DK Denmark
Poor Mr. Mitnik seemed more in need of gainful employment rather
than living a out a Tarantino script, but Mr. Powerlite must think
rather much of himself, especially since he's shown to be the cleverist
Sys Admin in the world.... well, now, Mr. T. have you ever played with
a professional? Not for profit, this would be simply for sport. I used
to do this sort of thing as a sideline every now and again, back when
things were different. But now, all is for sale. Well, shall we? M
markus wolf
USA
First of all, DON'T COMPLAIN about this page if you guys in the first place visit it.
secondly, mitnick is lame. careless move, no backup
Tsutomo is heavily backup, with very very powerful friends, and a rich background
MItnick fucking hack into his computer and Tsutomo protected himself
and the law helped just to say that crime does not pay, not even in cyberspace
please give credit to them...both of them...
one for being such a crazy hacker and the other for such a good defend
bravo, bravo
Hijiri Kaneshiro
kl, malaysia
They are Both Criminals but Mitnick made The first move, a bad first move
It is cearly shown that they both have the knowledge of a elite hacker but it is mitnick that made the first move
and what tsutomo did was defending. A fair game
MItnick is slooppyyyyyy and that is his fault.what are you guys complaining about???
Terence <blade@asiapac.net>
Kuala Lumpur, malaysia
Hmm. All I can say is, I'm pretty jealous of Kevin. I mean,
sure, he got caught, but, still. He rocks pretty hard. I'm an
IRC hacker myself, but now I'm thinking about taking up
UNIX hacking so I can break-in and stuff.
Richard Carey <tdc001@latech.edu>
USA
i am also a hacker tell me how he did it...........ha ha ha
**^$@@)()(%%***~~~!
jack chxzio <mpmonkee>
daer, mongolia
Shinomura, i have been reading the book, and sometimes
i think you are full of it. However i think it is cool that
you manage to go through school without actually doing the
"work" teachers asked.
Also i think you were too hard on Andrew, or at least you
should have kept your thoughts about his performance to yourself
Xam.
xam <xamateca@seranis.com.au>
Australia
O' Kamikaze do caralho, ve lah se te dedicas a' apanha dos
gambuzinos. Havia de te crescer um pessegueiro no cu'.
Translation: The guy was a Kamikaze...he got what he deserved...
Here in portugal we usualy enrabate them (I don't know the
English word for Enrabate).
See u later
(or as we say in Portugal... XUPAMOOS!!!)
PS:XINO DO CARALHO!!!
Zeca Galhoto <jmagalh@telepac.pt>
S. Cona do Assobio, SC Portugal
Looking here at your comment page I find that I am not alone
in thinking that you are an opportunistic prick. Have you
not figured it out yet? Most people think you are a dickhead
and not some kind of 90's hero. If you had a lick of sense
you would dump this silly site and dissapear back into
obscurity where you belong. Try and enjoy that money,
because after it is all gone you will still be a complete
dork with no social skills or fashion sense and women will
always laugh at your ass wherever you go.
kraemer
kraemer <kraemer@insync.net>
USA
Doesn't it bother you that most of the "crimes" that Kevin is
accused of (by you and Markoff) were, in fact, not even
perpetrated by him. Case in point, the mysterious voice
messages. Factual evidence says it was not his voice, and
there is also zero evidence that he broke into your system
on Christmas day. Somebody should sue YOU.
Let's hope the truth comes out and the courts pay
attention to the real evidence, and only make Kevin pay
for the crimes he actually committed, not the ones you
committed for YOUR OWN PERSONAL GAIN!
alexx <alexx@msn.com>
USA
Doesn't it bother you that most of the "crimes" that Kevin is
accused of (by you and Markoff) were, in fact, not even
perpetrated by him. Case in point, the mysterious voice
messages. Factual evidence says it was not his voice, and
there is also zero evidence that he broke into your system
on Christmas day. Somebody should sue YOU.
Let's hope the truth comes out and the courts pay
attention to the real evidence, and only make Kevin pay
for the crimes he actually committed, not the ones you
committed for YOUR OWN PERSONAL GAIN!
alexx
USA
I think that you are phucked up for trying to get Kevin behind bars,
you are the one who needs to be behind bars. Everything that he has done,
you have done yourself, one way or another. You had illigal, and
hacked software that got stolen from you, on several occasions.
The fact that he broke into your computer is your fault, so your phuck up
planted him behind bars. And now you are living up the "Big" life,
getting rich off of some guys misfortune. That is PHUCKED!!
And PHUCK YOU!!
Gene Burch <pissed@you.com>
Hilliard, Fl USA
Doesn't General Atomic own all the rights stemming from work
conducted at the San Diego Supercomputer Center?
I suppose, technically, Mr Blue of General Atomics would be
pretty interested in knowing about the book deal, huh?
There has been much in the papers about this issue.
FunkyMonkey
San Diego, Ca USA
I'm going to send a letter to the head of the Supercomputer
center in San Diego, and ask him to investigate who paid
for the expenses related to this investigation.
It may be cool that he demonstrates problem solving ability,
but are these problems that the taxpayers should pay for?
Was Mitnik especially dangerous, although technically a
criminal? How much $ was spent tracking him down?
FunkyMonkey
San Diego, Ca USA
IF MITNICK WAS ARRESTED FOR STEALING A CELLUAR PROGRAM AND A STEALTH PROGRAM
THAT WERE BOTH ILLEGAL THEN WHAT WAS THE HERO DOING WITH THEM????
ZEROCOOL <N/A>
PEMBROKE, NC USA
Notice that Shimomura flew all over the nation (at taxpayer's
expense) to investigate a crime that happened to his own
personal computers, and not those of the San Diego
Supercomputer Center. We all footed the bill for a series
of events that led to this nice book deal for Shimomura.
Why doesn't Shimomura respond? Because he's off skiing.
We don't have to work...We don't have to work!
Falalalala-lalala, We don't have to work!
FunkyMonkey
San Diego, USA
I think what you guys are doin to Mitnick is TOTALLY Bogus!
First, you publish his picture all over teh newspapers
and magazines and convince the public that he is this evil guy
out to destruct everything, when in reality, he's just a
smart man to enjoys learning. Sure, he stole Netcoms credit
cards, but he NEVER used ONE! Also, those cards were open to the
public. Anybody who knows their way around unix and the internet
could have taken them. That was netcoms fault for not hiding
them or putting them on the computer that isnt commected to the internet.
Markoff is the real hacker. He's hacked everyone who has ever
bought one of his books full of ficticious facts. Markoff has
just a SLIGHT tendency to, ummm...lie. I dont know where you
guys get off getting rich off of somebody like mitnick, just
because you have a lot of PRESS connections. You totally
gave him a bad apperance to the public so you could
get rich off of it all. And you succeeded. One guy gets busted,
2 others get rich. GOOD HACK! To bad Mitnick didnt think
of that. Markoff got rich once already from writing about
mitnick in Cyberpunk, which was totally bogus by the way.
Oh, and its interesting how you (Shimomura) accuse mitnick of putting
evil or bad messages on your voice mail box when you kept getting
them AFTER he was caught. And its also intersting how
Markoff and Shimomura signed a $750,000 book deal less than
a week after mitnick was caught. If you want the TRUTH, you
should read what 2600 magazine (the hacker quarterly) had
to say about this in their Spring 1995 issue. Why are they a
reputable source? well, first of all, their not trying to get
rich off Mitnick, and second, Mitnick used to write for them.
Also, they show facts, like how they PUBLISHED how to get
Netcoms credit cards in the Autumn 1994 issue, and how
netcom was warned aobut this, and the STILL did nothing!
Sure, Mitnick is a criminal, he clearly had a parol
violation Marckoff and Shimomura just saw it fit to classify
him as the most wanted computer criminal in America. Why is he
the most wanted criminal? Because he broke into Shimomuras
computer? whatever...
MeSS <Anon>
NC USA
What story? You are a NON-STORY...a NON-MOVIE..
Paula L. <ad664@ccn.cs.dal.ca>
Halifax, NS CA
Well, I've not read the book yet (I'll have a look when I'm
next in the USA) but regarding an earlier point about the
fairness of publishing "personal" e-mail and net traffic,
as one of those affected (Mitnick browsing my mail to
Farmer, replayed in one of the telnet sessions) I can't
say to be particularly bothered. If you send plain ascii
to someone, it's a risk you take. Else use PGP.
One actual benefit that I've seen from this traffic replay
is that I now have a definite link between Mitnick and
a "mailicous" (rude) voice-mail that I received whilst
I was in the USA at that time; I didn't hear about
Tsutomu's voicemails for a couple of weeks afterwards,
but when I downloaded the audio files and played them,
it struck me that I had heard the voice before, and
then I remembered...
I've just never before had any proof that Mitnick was aware
of my existence, let alone any reason as to why he should
phone me, apart from the fact that some of my friends are
his "enemies".
'Tis a pity I deleted the voicemail, else I could
write a book about it and make millions.
...maybe get a job as a NYT staff writer, too! 8-)
- alec
Alec Muffett <alec.muffett@uk.sun.com>
Oxford, UK
The references to Kung-fu movies are quite off base.
Traditionally, those who embrace a certain style of Kung-Fu
over another rarely brag about the virtues of their style.
No one's style is "The Best". Bruce Lee knew it, Chan knew
it, and you can damn well bet that Mitnick knew it too.
Personally, I advocate the teachings of Aikido, and would
strongly suggest you all adopt the same teachimgs as part
of your computer science careers.
Cheers,
Billy Bathgate
Cucamonga Ca
William Bathgate
USA
The scary part of the whole thing is that Mitnick is not even
a UNIX experts (judging from the story that he was asking for
good books on UNIX admin). He just depends on his source (jsz?).
So... who is jsz, the person who left messages on your answering
machines, etc. The book is okay, but I like the way you handle
the situation (preserving evidence).
-- budi
Budi Rahardjo <rahard@ee.umanitoba.ca>
Winnipeg, MB Canada
I read the book with great interest! I can't wait for a
movie version to come out, mainly because I have imagined
you and your Sprint friends sitting, hunched in that van.
So exciting! I wish I could sit in a van too. The fight
between good and evil is so evident here.
Keep up the good skiing. It is important that you get back
to skiing instead of being bothered by these interruptions
from computer crackers.
crackers
James Miho
Pasadena , Ca USA
Dear Jackie Chan,
You were awesome in "Rumble in the Bronx"...One of
the best action films I've ever seen. Gosh, how does
a computational physicist, like you, find the time to
make films too?
The character in your book, Kevin Mitnik, is a really bad
excuse for an antagonist. I think you could invented a much
more devious criminal if you'd so wished. Also, there wasn't
any Kung-fu, something I always liked in all your other
films.
I think if this had been an international spy ring break-up,
it would have been a cool read, but this Mitnik guy was just
tapping into cel phone lines. Big deal. No sex either. Big
deal. You'd think that with all the self hyping going on,
that Mitnik was going to blow up the San Diego hub of the
internet. Bad fiction man.
Stick to Kung-fu.
Harry Tong
Poway , Ca
When this thing comes out in paperback please have Markham speak about it in the first person and shed some light on this thing...because I am very curious to know his deeper feelings. In the NY Times article he never mentioned speaking to Mitnick, saying that he hoped things worked out for him...
Eric Martin <eric@parc.com>
Montreal, QC Canada
I just finished the book, I enjoyed it a great deal, I you can see i'm a netcom user it was pretty wierd to see your self in a book you're reading.
Anyway what happend to Julia?
P Ferrow <ferrop@ix.netcom.com>
N.Mass, Ny USA
Aren't you the guy in that band "Smashing Pumpkins"?
You really crank on the guitar. Computers are for geeks!
Rock on Dude!
Pat <72614.1411@compuserve.com>
San Diego, USA
So, how much money did you blow in your "relentless pursuit"
of Kevin Mitnik? How much of it was yours, and how much of
it was *ours* (as in Taxpayers). Did you collect a salary
from the San Diego supercomputer center during your "hunt"?
What I ask is: Did my tax dollars finance your rise to
"Fame"? Your account in WIRED seems to imply that you spared
no expense in order to catch this guy. I just want to know
who's expense it was.
If it was MY money you used, what did it gain me other than
your book and inflated ego? Wasn't the intense media
coverage enough to satisfy your desire? I guess you don't
want it to end. Shame on you!
Dude
San Diego, USA
Tsutomu...Aren't you taking yourself a bit seriously now?
Like we even care that you caught some hacker. It's not like
Batman just caught the Joker.
Get on with your life dude. If you want this to be your
"15 minutes" of fame...it will be a very short-lived
15 minutes indeed. Trust me.
Dude. No one cares. Yeah, it made interesting reading in
the paper. For a few days. I'm not gonna shell out $30
to read about something I've already heard of. Gimme a break!
Patrick Mannion <72614.1411@compuserve.com>
San Diego, USA
Make sure you tell Hollywood to get rid of the boring ski trips and ski comments and ski ski ski stuff...it would have saved me a couple of hours of reading time...and don't want to see it on screen...please.
Eric Martin <ericmartin@aol.com>
USA
The telnet sessions with the recordings are facsinating, but
scary. Since when is it okay to publish private communications
by a third party? Does the FBI publically disclose wiretaps
for entertainment purposes? Why is it okay for M & S? I've said
here before that "The Fugitive Game" must be read along with
Takedown (which I bought and read in its entirety). To balance
the Web accounts, you should also look at http://www.well.com/user/jlittman/
There are excerpts from The Fugitive Game, and it's maintained by
an individual, not a PR firm. This is still a tangled web and a
tale which isn't finished. Mitnick's next hearing is April 1.
Chris Markham <csm@adobe.com>
San Jose, CA USA
I've read Markoff & Shimomura's excerpts in "Wired" and I
just finished Littman's "The Fugitive Game." And based on
what I've seen of this web site and the "Wired" excerpts, I
strongly recommend Littman's book for a more objective and
factual account of the Mitnick case. Markoff and Shimomura
are sensationalists with a habbit of ignoring crucial facts!
But I'd guess they'd have to be to get top dollar for the
movie rights.
Dan Eilerman <eilerman@one.net>
Cincinnati, OH USA
Shimomura goes Hollywood, and becomes a media darling
in the process.
A web page dedicated to self-aggrandizement......
You're not nearly as interesting as the subject of your book..
John <syfr@nando.net>
Raleigh, NC USA
So is this the most STUCK UP page on the 'net or what? Talk
about arrogant! If Shimomura were that good, he wouldn't have
to devote a whole fricken book and web site to tell the
world how GREAT he is. I wonder how his big head and ego fits
through the door. In short, GET A LIFE!
James Lee <jlee@aol.com>
USA
The best part of this page is making fun of the MLF, boy
are they lame!
Michael Wang <mwang@colgate.edu>
Hamilton, NYnyny USA
By far, this is the best page on the 'net. I find that I
enjoy watching attacker's online sessions more than I do
going to the movies! Good job.
Jason R. Keyes <jrk6910@rit.edu>
Rochester, NY USA
This is THE BEST page on the net! Tsutomu, I truly admire
you. I love the book and may you get some peace from all of
this attention :-)
Brian D. McGlothlin <bmcgloth@pen.k12.va.us>
USA
How are things at takeNdown.com, you dickless Bruce Lee wannabe?
Kevin Mitnick is more of a man than you can ever HOPE to be!!!
Karol May <KarolMay@aol.com>
NYC, NY USA
Anyone who is considering reading this account owes it to
her/himself to also read "The Fugitive Game" by Johnathan
Littman (Little Brown, Feb, 1996 ISBN 0316528587) for a
different look at these events.
I'm not saying Shimomura/Markoff were right or wrong in
their zeal, but there is always more than one side to a
story. Littman raises interesting questions, esp. wrt
Markoff's motives and the violation of 4th ammendment
rights during the final stages of the search.
I am glad Shimomura/Markoff wrote this book--only having
Littman's POV would have been just as damaging to the truth.
Chris Markham <csm@frame.com>
San Jose, CA USA
I think it is great that Tsutomu caught Mitnick. It is the
people who abuse computers like him who are the jerks. They
make many people and companies spend a lot of money trying
to keep them out. If only we could catch more of them.
Jeff Crist <gumbie@nando.net>
Raleigh, NC USA
I think that the gut that busted Kevin Mitnick has a really big head about the whole thing!! I think that he is to Cocky he thinks that he is the SHIT!!
Voltaren Synergist <NONE>
Defiance, OH USA
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